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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 09:39am
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I generally agree with MTD's granting one base penalty, even making it 2 bases if the ball reaches the wall, but might back off this "award" if its a one hop bullet directly at an outfielder.

The decision at first should be an easy one for you. The inside corner of the bag belongs to the runner, and good preventive umpiring makes sure this is so without the offense having to do your job for you.

In my 20 years of playing men's slow pitch. We never had this problem for obvious reasons.

As an aside, I wonder if your view of obstruction is tempered by what type of player you were? If you were slow, and generally only advanced one base at a time, it didn't matter whether you caught the corner as you weren't going any further anyway. To us (former) burners, it makes a huge difference.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 09:42am
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I generally agree with MTD's granting one base penalty, even making it 2 bases if the ball reaches the wall, but might back off this "award" if its a one hop bullet directly at an outfielder.

The decision at first should be an easy one for you. The inside corner of the bag belongs to the runner, and good preventive umpiring makes sure this is so without the offense having to do your job for you.

In my 20 years of playing men's slow pitch. We never had this problem for obvious reasons.

As an aside, I wonder if your view of obstruction is tempered by what type of player you were? If you were slow, and generally only advanced one base at a time, it didn't matter whether you caught the corner as you weren't going any further anyway. To us (former) burners, it makes a huge difference.
Are we having a rules discussion on this forum or what?

We got fan threads and bs opinion...
but no rules. Where are you guys getting this crap? DH whining!! Raining cats and dogs... end of times reports..

Is it to much to ask that we stick to rules of at least the major governing bodies of this particular sport?
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 10:04am
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The bottom line is the runner is entitled to the inside corner of the bag and if the field does not have the ball (ASA) she is obstructing the runner. This is not an atomic plus one ruling (ASA). She gets the base that the umpire judged she would get if no obstruction occurred.
In So Cal this has been common place for at least 5 years. Yes the coaches are looking to see if obstruction was called, and if it was they have the runner continue on to the next base. I have awarded as many the original base as I have awarded the next base.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 11:25am
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The bottom line is the runner is entitled to the inside corner of the bag
Isn't the runner entitled to whatever part of the base that they wish to use?

This is the second post in this thread where the phrase "entitled to the inside corner of the bag" was used. It is not up to the defense which part of the base the runner uses.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 04:40pm
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Isn't the runner entitled to whatever part of the base that they wish to use?

This is the second post in this thread where the phrase "entitled to the inside corner of the bag" was used. It is not up to the defense which part of the base the runner uses.
Yes the runner is entitled to whatever part of the bag they wish to use. Umpires say "inside corner" because what typically happens at first is the fielder is standing on the white portion of the double bag forcing the runner to round 1st behind the fielder. Going around the fielder could slow the runner down enough to be tagged out at second.

The bottom line is if the fielder does not have the ball and where she is standing causes the runner to alter her base path OBS must be called.

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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 04:50pm
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And the best way to get that call is to demonstrate that you were slowed down by a little incidental contact (nothing USC gross) ... and its being coached.

Hence, back to post #1

It is being seen a lot around here.
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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 04:54pm
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And the best way to get that call is to demonstrate that you were slowed down by a little incidental contact (nothing USC gross) ... and its being coached.

Hence, back to post #1

It is being seen a lot around here.
Because I work an eight to five only only do rec until tournement season. So you are basically saying I am going to have fun at the 18A Western National.

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Old Thu Apr 30, 2009, 11:38am
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This is not an atomic plus one ruling
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...DH whining!! Raining cats and dogs... end of times reports.....
So many topics, so little time...
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