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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 10:22am
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If the player asks, I will call the coach out to the circle and inform both of them at the same time.
I would assume since you called time you did not charge a charged conference to the DC. What if you told the coach and then he went out to tell his pitcher? Do you charge a conference then? You would have to IMHO.
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 10:28am
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I would assume since you called time you did not charge a charged conference to the DC. What if you told the coach and then he went out to tell his pitcher? Do you charge a conference then? You would have to IMHO.

You are correct as far as I am concerned. However, if you tell a coach and then accompany him to the circle as he tells the player, this would still fall under the domain of an official's time out. Now, if you don't go out there with him, and have no idea what instruction he may be giving apart from the IP, then you would probably have to charge him a conference. That is where preventative umpiring, i.e. walking to the circle with the coach, comes in handy!
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 11:18am
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I'm not here to give a rules and mechanics clinic about pitching. Call it, then remain silent unless asked by either DC or F1. Explain it to them when asked. If DC talks to F1, it's a conference (unless he pulls F1... )
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 11:26am
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I'm not here to give a rules and mechanics clinic about pitching. Call it, then remain silent unless asked by either DC or F1. Explain it to them when asked. If DC talks to F1, it's a conference (unless he pulls F1... )
Does either the ASA or NFHS rule book address charging a conference when this happens ?
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 11:35am
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Does either the ASA or NFHS rule book address charging a conference when this happens ?
ASA :
Rule 1 - Charged Conference
5.7[B]
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 11:54am
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ASA :
Rule 1 - Charged Conference
5.7[B]
Also, ASA RS 9-C. Since the TIME OUT was called by the umpire for a discussion with the player/coach, it would be pretty OOO to charge a conference here, IMO. Once the discussion with the official is over, and the umpire is ready to resume, if the DC wants to continue discussing things with his player, THEN maybe a charged conference, but I'd still let the coach know that if he continues, I'll have to charge a conference. IOW, if this whole thing ends in a charged conference, it will be the coach who chooses to make it such, not me.
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2009, 02:07pm
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Also, ASA RS 9-C. Since the TIME OUT was called by the umpire for a discussion with the player/coach, it would be pretty OOO to charge a conference here, IMO. Once the discussion with the official is over, and the umpire is ready to resume, if the DC wants to continue discussing things with his player, THEN maybe a charged conference, but I'd still let the coach know that if he continues, I'll have to charge a conference. IOW, if this whole thing ends in a charged conference, it will be the coach who chooses to make it such, not me.
I'm not disagreeing. I visualize the scenario as:
BU: IP
F1: What did I do?
BU tells F1, then returns to play.
DC: Blue, what did she do?
BU tells DC.
DC: Can I talk to my F1 about this?
BU: Sure coach, but it'll cost you a conference.

At that point, I've already informed F1 and DC about the infraction. If DC wants to talk to F1, I'm charging a conference. I don't see how RS 9C gets me out of not charging it in this situation.
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