After the IP call...

[Dukat]

What do you do?

1. Explain to the coach
2. Explain to the player
3. Neither
4. Both

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dukat

What do you do?

1. Explain to the coach
2. Explain to the player
3. Neither
4. Both

Depends upon level of competition and/or play, player's ability to understand, coaches ability to understand or whether all parties are aware what happened was illegal.

[Dukat]

I was mostly thinking about the High School FP game.

When you call it you always get the looks and normally it is easy as the coach will come up to you and ask what was illegal and you tell him, he calls time and tells his pitcher.

I have head the pitcher look over and ask though and I just wanted to see what everyone else does.

[Dakota]

In HS varsity, I would not explain anything to anyone unless asked. If the coach does not ask, my assumption is he knows what his pitcher did wrong.

In lower levels of play, I may ask the coach and F1 if they know what F1 did wrong. Many times, the coach will ask first, and after the explanation, ...

(wait for it....)

"She's been doing that all season and you're the first one to call that."

[Skahtboi]

I have much the same approach as Tom, though even at the lower levels I will wait to be asked.

[Dukat]

But what if it is the pitcher who looks over and asks and not the coach?

[Skahtboi]

If the player asks, I will call the coach out to the circle and inform both of them at the same time.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Dukat

But what if it is the pitcher who looks over and asks and not the coach?

I'd probably call TIME and answer her question, same as I would for F2 if she asked.

[ronald]

Our association's procedure is to call time and ask the pitcher is she knows what she did wrong.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

If the player asks, I will call the coach out to the circle and inform both of them at the same time.

This is how I deal with it.

[Dukat]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

If the player asks, I will call the coach out to the circle and inform both of them at the same time.

I would assume since you called time you did not charge a charged conference to the DC. What if you told the coach and then he went out to tell his pitcher? Do you charge a conference then? You would have to IMHO.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Dukat

I would assume since you called time you did not charge a charged conference to the DC. What if you told the coach and then he went out to tell his pitcher? Do you charge a conference then? You would have to IMHO.

You are correct as far as I am concerned. However, if you tell a coach and then accompany him to the circle as he tells the player, this would still fall under the domain of an official's time out. Now, if you don't go out there with him, and have no idea what instruction he may be giving apart from the IP, then you would probably have to charge him a conference. That is where preventative umpiring, i.e. walking to the circle with the coach, comes in handy!

[SRW]

I'm not here to give a rules and mechanics clinic about pitching. Call it, then remain silent unless asked by either DC or F1. Explain it to them when asked. If DC talks to F1, it's a conference (unless he pulls F1... )

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

In HS varsity, I would not explain anything to anyone unless asked. If the coach does not ask, my assumption is he knows what his pitcher did wrong.

Well, that would go back to my response. Just because a game is HS varsity does not mean play is at a higher level. I've seen some HS games that was barely higher than that of a 14U game.

It is to the umpire's benefit as much as the player to make them aware of what you have ruled illegal.

[MrRabbit]

Originally Posted by SRW

I'm not here to give a rules and mechanics clinic about pitching. Call it, then remain silent unless asked by either DC or F1. Explain it to them when asked. If DC talks to F1, it's a conference (unless he pulls F1... )

Does either the ASA or NFHS rule book address charging a conference when this happens ?