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Old Wed Mar 25, 2009, 04:47pm
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I'm assuming you mean fast-pitch? If this happened in a slow-pitch game, there's some ucking fidiots playing the game! (and in this case, you can IGNORE my signature!)
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Old Wed Mar 25, 2009, 05:31pm
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I'm assuming you mean fast-pitch? If this happened in a slow-pitch game, there's some ucking fidiots playing the game! (and in this case, you can IGNORE my signature!)
Why? The ball is live in SP w/stealing
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 07:54am
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Why? The ball is live in SP w/stealing
Depending on where the ball landed at the end of the pitch, causing it to get away from the catcher. Either way, I'd still have an ejection.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 02:48pm
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When she intentionally kicked the ball, I would call "Time, Dead Ball"....Batter/Runner is "OUT" on interference and then have a pow wow with the coach that if she did it again him & her would be ejected from the game.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 03:01pm
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Much as I would like to simply declare the BR out at the time she kicks the ball, unlike Fed, ASA requires there be a play for there to be interference, and ASA defines a play as an attempt to retire a runner.

As Steve says, unless the BR attempts to advance beyond 1B (or any other runners attempt to advance beyond where they were forced), there is no play. Hence, there is no interference.

There very well may be USC, or a warning about future USC if the act is repeated, but without a play to be interfered with, there is no interference.

In the OP, the BR did advance to 3B. In that situation, once she began her try for 2B, the kicking has now interfered with a play, so at that point, dead ball, BR out, other runners (if any) return.

I have no doubt 90% of the time you could declare the immediate dead ball and the BR out and no one would question it... the coach would probably be focusing his attention on the bone-headed move by his player.

Elaine (LadyBlue), is that you?
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 03:03pm
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Elaine (LadyBlue), is that you?
That was the first thought I had, but if it is she has a)moved from Georgia to the great state of North Carolina, and b)started a new account when she could have used her old one.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 03:54pm
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When I was first asked about this situation (this past weekend) I answered it with the following...

When the "kicking of the ball" happened I would of declared "dead ball", gave the BR first base on the base on balls and gave the offensive team a warning for USC. By killing the play, I figured it prevented the BR from trying to advance anywhere past 1B and hopefully prevented all hell breaking loose with coaches.

I was really thinking of changing my mind after BKJones and the others posts but I will stick with my call above. Not saying it's right especially with my only 2+ years of experience, Just MHO. Now if we add runners to this situation then we are talking a whole different animal.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 03:03pm
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When she intentionally kicked the ball, I would call "Time, Dead Ball"....Batter/Runner is "OUT" on interference and then have a pow wow with the coach that if she did it again him & her would be ejected from the game.
Reset; no other runners. Batter has received ball 4, and is not in jeopardy, is awarded first base.

What play has the Batter-Runner interfered with, as required by the definition of interference? Until and unless the BR or another runner attempt to advance to an unawarded base, there is no rules basis to make that interference call.

You would lose that protest.
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