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Old Wed Mar 25, 2009, 10:01pm
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Although umpires have the duty and right to inspect equipment, the responsibility
for proper equipment rests with coaches, student-athletes and their parents/guardians.

"equipment" is on the players....
In the meeting, the reason NFHS requires the head coach to be present is so he can verify "to the plate umpire that all his/her players are legally equipped, and that players and equipment are in compliance with all NFHS rules", thus confirming that he understands compliance is his responsibility, and it is not a game of "see what you can slip by the umpire."
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 10:27am
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So, in the spirit of this thread, I got to call my first jewelry violation yesterday.

The visiting coach pointed it out to me; if he hadn't I never would have seen the small ugly stud in the 2nd Baseman's eyebrow from behind the plate.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 10:34am
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So, in the spirit of this thread, I got to call my first jewelry violation yesterday.

The visiting coach pointed it out to me; if he hadn't I never would have seen the small ugly stud in the 2nd Baseman's eyebrow from behind the plate.
And I'm sure he was just concerned for the player's safety
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 11:01am
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So, in the spirit of this thread, I got to call my first jewelry violation yesterday.

The visiting coach pointed it out to me; if he hadn't I never would have seen the small ugly stud in the 2nd Baseman's eyebrow from behind the plate.
So in the spirit of this thread you had her remove it, issued a team warning, and notified the head coach that the next offense would result in the HC and the player restricted to the bench for the remainder of the game?
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 11:20am
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So in the spirit of this thread you had her remove it, issued a team warning, and notified the head coach that the next offense would result in the HC and the player restricted to the bench for the remainder of the game?
Almost. I told her she was not allowed to play with it in. She decided to remove it on her own.
The coach got the message of the warning and yelled at all his players to double check. This was between innings so it didn't delay the game. Her dropping the earring on the ground as she took it out and the coach, BU, and F4 trying to find it did but only slightly.
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Almost. I told her she was not allowed to play with it in. She decided to remove it on her own.
The coach got the message of the warning and yelled at all his players to double check. This was between innings so it didn't delay the game. Her dropping the earring on the ground as she took it out and the coach, BU, and F4 trying to find it did but only slightly.
If this was a Fed game, you still need to go through the formality of the official warning. It doesn't need to be confrontational; just informational, "Coach, this constitutes your official warning. Please ensure all your players are following your instructions, since the next violation will result in the player being removed from the game and you restricted to the bench." Or some such...

Even though the coach yelled at his players, I guarantee you there was one who figured no one would ever notice hers. How do I know? I raised 2 daughters!

Mike, again, if it was a Fed game, there is no judgment about safety; jewelry goes. I'm sure the VC's motives were to disrupt, but it doesn't matter.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 11:32am
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Mike, again, if it was a Fed game, there is no judgment about safety; jewelry goes. I'm sure the VC's motives were to disrupt, but it doesn't matter.
Oh, I understand completely and on the rare occasion I work HS ball, it is the law.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 12:24pm
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If this was a Fed game, you still need to go through the formality of the official warning. It doesn't need to be confrontational; just informational, "Coach, this constitutes your official warning. Please ensure all your players are following your instructions, since the next violation will result in the player being removed from the game and you restricted to the bench." Or some such...
Yeah, that's what I did. Only difference was, I added, and neither one of us wants that to the end. Sorry I was unclear.
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Old Thu Mar 26, 2009, 02:43pm
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So in the spirit of this thread you had her remove it, issued a team warning, and notified the head coach that the next offense would result in the HC and the player restricted to the bench for the remainder of the game?
As opposed to "coach, you were given your warning at the plate meeting, she's gone and you're gone, now get me a new pitcher"?
What's funny is that's the same coach and pitcher involved in the second meeting in the same inning debacle! No wonder they didn't win the state championship! It couldn't be a better coach or better young lady. He helps in ways no one knows because he has ordered me and a couple others to never tell...gives more help to RBI program than the Mariners or MLB!
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After reading this entire thread, I am convinced more and more these sort of things are why NYS does NOT subscribe to NFHS for softball.

For the record, here is the card we are required to read before every game:

No jewelry, which includes visible body piercing shall be worn in any sport. Any piece of jewelry that is visible at the start of , or during, any contest, is in violation of the NYSPHSAA Jewelry Rule. Religious medals must be taped to the body snd under the uniform. Medical medals must be taped so they are visible. Soft, pliable barrettes are are permissable. Body gems are not
(Italics were mine, btw)
About once a year, I might have to remind someone about a forgotten necklace...and usually the kid is SO embarrassed about it....


Also it is MANDATORY for us to check 'bats and hats' prior to a game - and again, all the teams are so used to it, they all have everything out for us to look when we get to the field for our pregame. The coaches like it, actually - occasionally we will find a helmet where the mask is a little loose, or something minor like that, and the coach who is usually busy as all heck appreciates it. Then EVERYbody's butt is covered....

New York can run SOME things pretty well at times....
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