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Old Tue Mar 17, 2009, 10:26am
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derwil, what you're finding is that the culture of softball (and also baseball) is quite different from that of basketball. This culture plays a large part in what makes the diamond sports unique.

If you think the uniform variations are bad in softball, be thankful you don't work baseball or even soccer.

Also, for what it's worth, NY is a member of the NFHS but apparently, not in softball. Similar to TX and MA in football.

Wade, what level of ball is IFA? In this area, it seems youth fastpitch is soley ASA. I don't think we even have adult fastpitch anywhere local.
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derwil, what you're finding is that the culture of softball (and also baseball) is quite different from that of basketball. This culture plays a large part in what makes the diamond sports unique.

If you think the uniform variations are bad in softball, be thankful you don't work baseball or even soccer.

Also, for what it's worth, NY is a member of the NFHS but apparently, not in softball. Similar to TX and MA in football.

Wade, what level of ball is IFA? In this area, it seems youth fastpitch is soley ASA. I don't think we even have adult fastpitch anywhere local.

I work volleyball in the fall, and NYS volleyball follows NCAA rules, not NFHS...
our softball group is meeting tonight, and I will ask the football/soccer/baseball guys if they use NFHS...I think baseball and football do, but I think soccer uses NCAA....
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Old Tue Mar 17, 2009, 11:03am
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Working slow-pitch, I only have ASA and USSSA in my alphabet soup (thank goodness!). Each city in the metro Omaha area uses either ASA or USSSA so that's what I stick with. USSSA does have options other than the red shirt, but most use the red shirt.
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I work volleyball in the fall, and NYS volleyball follows NCAA rules, not NFHS...
our softball group is meeting tonight, and I will ask the football/soccer/baseball guys if they use NFHS...I think baseball and football do, but I think soccer uses NCAA....
Interesting. I do know football and baseball use NFHS rules (as does basketball I believe). I'm too lazy to look it up, but I would imagine NY has a seat on the NFHS rules committee for each of those sports.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 02:43pm
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Interesting. I do know football and baseball use NFHS rules (as does basketball I believe). I'm too lazy to look it up, but I would imagine NY has a seat on the NFHS rules committee for each of those sports.
I was under the belief that all states had a seat at the table. Unless you modified Fed rules ,then you lost your seat.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 03:18pm
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I was under the belief that all states had a seat at the table. Unless you modified Fed rules ,then you lost your seat.
The state has to use Federation rules in that sport as well. If NY doesn't use NFHS rules for HS softbal then I would imagine they do not have a seat at the NFHS Softball Rules committee. Texas and Mass do not have seats on the NFHS Football Rules Committee though the state organizations are members of the NFHS.

The NFHS rulebook for each sport should have a list of whom the rules committee members are.
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Old Wed Mar 18, 2009, 10:01am
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Also, for what it's worth, NY is a member of the NFHS but apparently, not in softball. Similar to TX and MA in football.
Actually, in Texas, all sports abide by NFHS rules. However, all sports officials in Texas are not registered with NFHS, but rather with their own in-state organization, the Texas Association of Sports Officials, TASO.
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Actually, in Texas, all sports abide by NFHS rules. However, all sports officials in Texas are not registered with NFHS, but rather with their own in-state organization, the Texas Association of Sports Officials, TASO.
Scott, I was speaking to state membership on the NFHS rules committee, not the membership of individual officials. Texas HS Football is played under NCAA rules, hence Texas does not have a seat on the NFHS football rules committee.
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