control of the ball

[ChampaignBlue]

Originally Posted by beachbum

B1 has infield hit. F3 prepares for thrown and tag. Ball arrives early enought for runner to be out, but is rolling(moving) around in f3's glove as B1 touches base.

what is the call?? is the runner out becasue the ball was technically in the glove or safe because F3 did not have total control of it?

I called the runner safe. Coach claimed that control is not necessary.

Control is indeed necessary and it is up to you to decide if she has control of the ball. Is it moving because she is shifting it for a throw or is it moving because she has not yet got the ball under her control? On a relay throw the ball may not come to a stop in the glove but the fact that she could throw the ball demonstrated control. That's also why you should yell out "on the transfer" if the player drops the ball trying to make the relay throw on a double play so the players all know that you are still calling the first runner out, that you were satisfied that she had control, saves debate.

I should add that the player needs to be under control as well, unlike football, the ground can cause a dropped catch.

[wadeintothem]

Yes, there must be control. I would say the call should be "bobble" and a sell safe. This is the type of play where a coach is going to advocate for their call, but you made the right call.

[tcblue13]

Good Call
I used to be so quick on the trigger with safes and outs that I called an out in a situation just like you had and the ball ended up on the ground. I had to change the call and then had to "explain" it to the D coach. Noooo Fun