NAFA Does Not Last Long In This Area

[wadeintothem]

A few questions..

If its pay at the game, how does the umpire organization get paid? Is it separate billing?

How is it accounted for with a 1099 or is it?

I wish it was all cash under the table for a game, but its just not in my area. Those days are gone. HS and travel ball tournaments go through an association, with everyone getting their kick and its all by contract. This is not a handshake type deal.

It seems very different in other areas.

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

A few questions..

If its pay at the game, how does the umpire organization get paid? Is it separate billing?

How is it accounted for with a 1099 or is it?

I wish it was all cash under the table for a game, but its just not in my area. Those days are gone. HS and travel ball tournaments go through an association, with everyone getting their kick and its all by contract. This is not a handshake type deal.

It seems very different in other areas.

The umpire organization does not get paid - we're independant contractors.
As for 1099's, most of the high schools and all of the colleges have W-9's, but I don't usually get to $600 in a quater for any of them. I'm in a very rural area - huge ASA district, for example, but primarily farm land which does not make for a big number population-wise.

Yeah, every area seems to be different. Like you said - if you don't like the way it's done, work elsewhere. The vast majority of the games I do are outside of my area - but that's because I like higher level games.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Steve M

The umpire organization does not get paid - we're independant contractors.
As for 1099's, most of the high schools and all of the colleges have W-9's, but I don't usually get to $600 in a quater for any of them. I'm in a very rural area - huge ASA district, for example, but primarily farm land which does not make for a big number population-wise.

Yeah, every area seems to be different. Like you said - if you don't like the way it's done, work elsewhere. The vast majority of the games I do are outside of my area - but that's because I like higher level games.

Interesting. I am also rurual, but I travel to work the big events within my own metro.

Here, it works like this

Several tournament hosting organizations have contracted with the umpire organization to provide officials for tournaments. The tournaments are pretty much weekly through the season (mar-nov) and some huge. Each weekend 30-80 umpires are dispatched to these tournaments. This does not include any national / regional championship play events.

Likewise on the NFHS side, every high school I know of goes through our organization to provide officials for most of their games of just every sport. As such, it would be very easy for me to say, transition to football or baseball, because it is the same organization; albeit different leadership. I know the peeps, and easy to get in if I chose.

The exceptions for ASA are: Rec leagues & beer leagues and some small friendlies that do not include outside teams. The exceptions for high school usually involve JV programs. I am a local UIC under my association and I have some rec leagues and beer leagues under me where the organization gets nothing (and neither do I). There are 9 or 10 other similar areas, only one of whom goes through the org for their rec league. These all have various methods of payment, which do not include the umpire organization.

There are also strong ties to the NCAA community, with our regional UIC also a top dog in NCAA, so were one capable and able, it is an easy transition to make in roads to the NCAA, from there your career is in your hands.


So this is an extensive network of officiating and tournament hosting organizations with significant and continuous training and evaluation of umpires.

It sounds a little different than your area; I'm not sure how you could coordinate weekly events involving dozens of umpires at multiple sites without a central command.. so I'm not sure how active it is in your area.

For pay, we get paid weekly from our assocation, just like a job. At the end of the year, those who made over a certain amount get a 1099. I'm not sure what that amount is because I've certainly always well exceeded whatever minimum that is and I'm not involved in that aspect. Also for every umpire dispatched to an event, the org receives payment which is disbursed, for example ot the assigner, etc. The association is run a board (of which I am a insignificant member) who who meet monthly and decide all things wondrous, or in the alternative, whine ad nauseum.

Thats about how it goes here.