FP hit by pitch

[FullCount]

Maybe I'm looking on this too simplistically but it seems to me they both apply and they do not conflict. In your example you state the ball hit the plate. So at that moment in time it's a ball and still a live ball by Rule 7- at that moment. Moments later, the ball hits the batter out of the strike zone- it was a legally pitched ball and you state the batter is jumping back, hence she's trying to avoid being hit. So then it at that later moment in time it becomes a dead ball by Rule 8 and the batter is awarded first base. This isn't either/or logic; it's analog- sequential events in time and both rules are directly applicable.

[topper]

Originally Posted by FullCount

In your example you state the ball hit the plate. So at that moment in time it's a ball and still a live ball by Rule 7- at that moment. Moments later, the ball hits the batter out of the strike zone- it was a legally pitched ball and you state the batter is jumping back, hence she's trying to avoid being hit.

You show me a plate that sticks up far enough for this to happen, and I'll show you an unplayable field condition.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by topper

You show me a plate that sticks up far enough for this to happen, and I'll show you an unplayable field condition.

Then you better stay away from about 95% of the fields on which I've umpired.

[Tru_in_Blu]

OK, I like the "sequential process" explanation.

I know what the call should be. I've been HBP a few times and on occasion I've even hit a few batters myself.

So while I was cognizant of the rule application, I was struggling with how the rules were written.

Thanx for your inputs.

Ted

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

OK, I like the "sequential process" explanation.

I've been HBP a few times and on occasion I've even hit a few batters myself.
Ted

Well, we've all probably been hit by a few pitches, but if you are going to retaliate, I would think you would hit the catcher.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Sorry, I meant that I'd been hit or hit batters as a player/pitcher.

Since umpiring, yes, I've been hit as well. I think more times in 3 years as an umpire than almost 30 years as a player.

Ted