3 man mechanics question

[AtlUmpSteve]

It's amazing to me that no one has "created" 4-umpire mechanics. I have a set of 3-umpire and 4-umpire coverage handouts given to me by Henry Pollard at the 2002 ASA National Umpire School in Killeen, Texas.

What is more accurate to say is that ASA 4-umpire mechanics were never officially included in the Umpire Manual; and that, when the new regime took over, the broom swept out everything not published to the general public via the Umpire Manual. There are many specific recommended mechanics no longer approved because they weren't ever in the Manual.

That version of 4-umpire still has rotations; any time a base umpire chases, another umpire has to rotate (always clock-wise) to cover that opening. Same as MLB, relative to rotations.

[Skahtboi]

And 4 man mechanics will always have some rotations, because of umpires chasing. Unless, of course, we get rid of the concept of chasing.

[wadeintothem]

Maybe ASA could focus on bridging the mechanics gap the NCAA can created with their superior 2 and 3 man systems and mechanics.. and forget that 4 man stuff. When umps need to do 4 man, they'll probably have some skills, they can grab an MLB handout and be good to go in about 15 mins of study.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Maybe ASA could focus on bridging the mechanics gap the NCAA can created with their superior 2 and 3 man systems and mechanics.. and forget that 4 man stuff. When umps need to do 4 man, they'll probably have some skills, they can grab an MLB handout and be good to go in about 15 mins of study.

What's the matter? Did the tree you hug daily get cut down?

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

What's the matter? Did the tree you hug daily get cut down?

Hey now, we've gone around and around and I've never been so low as to insinuate you are a tree hugging liberal. Have you no line you will not cross?

You..you..you hillary loving obama messiah voter.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Hey now, we've gone around and around and I've never been so low as to insinuate you are a tree hugging liberal. Have you no line you will not cross?

You..you..you hillary loving obama messiah voter.

Actually, since our gutless congress has decided to become business partners with the financial, insurance and, coming soon, the transportation world, I figure we are going to need someone familiar with running a socialist government, so Vladimir Putin comes to mind.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Actually, since our gutless congress has decided to become business partners with the financial, insurance and, coming soon, the transportation world, I figure we are going to need someone familiar with running a socialist government, so Vladimir Putin comes to mind.

Got that right...

Wheres a good Stalin when ya really need him.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

It's amazing to me that no one has "created" 4-umpire mechanics. I have a set of 3-umpire and 4-umpire coverage handouts given to me by Henry Pollard at the 2002 ASA National Umpire School in Killeen, Texas.

What is more accurate to say is that ASA 4-umpire mechanics were never officially included in the Umpire Manual; and that, when the new regime took over, the broom swept out everything not published to the general public via the Umpire Manual. There are many specific recommended mechanics no longer approved because they weren't ever in the Manual.

That version of 4-umpire still has rotations; any time a base umpire chases, another umpire has to rotate (always clock-wise) to cover that opening. Same as MLB, relative to rotations.

Yep, I probably have the same handouts from Henry. And you are correct how all that information was handled by ASA.

Of course, you are correct. My mind was more along the line of the play being discussed, a ball to the infield with runners on. My bad.

The difference though is that with a 4-umpire crew, there will always (okay, SHOULD always) be 3 umpires remaining in the IF which makes the rotation much easier.