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Old Thu Sep 25, 2008, 07:11pm
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as compared to inactively joining in?
I can't imagine what action that would be.
Don't forget, english is my second foreign langue AND i'm working the nightshift right now. I'm not that clear as I wished I should be. But I think I've got the message...

Hopefully tonight (at 20:30h) I'm well awake. Working as U3 in the first semi-final dutch national championship ladies competition..
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 03:39am
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Working as U3 in the first semi-final dutch national championship ladies competition..
congrats, Sander.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 07:32am
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It is obvious most of you have no idea what the actual registration rate for an ASA umpireis, even though it is clearly noted in the code.

And I'm not going to tell you. Look it up.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 07:45am
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It is obvious most of you have no idea what the actual registration rate for an ASA umpireis, even though it is clearly noted in the code.

And I'm not going to tell you. Look it up.
Well I paid $50 to get my ASA card and the guys in texas have to pay $75 for theirs.
So, yes I agree with you I have no idea what the rate is.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 08:22am
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Well I paid $50 to get my ASA card and the guys in texas have to pay $75 for theirs.
So, yes I agree with you I have no idea what the rate is.
We do??? I hadn't heard this. I paid a total of $45.00. $20.00 to my local association, and $25.00 to Texas ASA.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 08:37am
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We do??? I hadn't heard this. I paid a total of $45.00. $20.00 to my local association, and $25.00 to Texas ASA.
That is a lot more reasonable. I was thinking Texas really lost their mind now.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 10:22am
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We do??? I hadn't heard this. I paid a total of $45.00. $20.00 to my local association, and $25.00 to Texas ASA.
In this area, we paid $63.00. Hell not even sure which got what. Not really
worried about it. Work two tournaments and it all comes back.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 10:25am
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In NC, we pay $65. I'm not sure where it all goes, though. Never asked, really.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 10:40am
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We do??? I hadn't heard this. I paid a total of $45.00. $20.00 to my local association, and $25.00 to Texas ASA.
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In this area, we paid $63.00. Hell not even sure which got what. Not really
worried about it. Work two tournaments and it all comes back.
Dang.... you work cheap.... I usually make $200 a tourney
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 10:39am
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We do??? I hadn't heard this. I paid a total of $45.00. $20.00 to my local association, and $25.00 to Texas ASA.
thats what the guys from houston/beaumont told me this past year.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 10:48am
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thats what the guys from houston/beaumont told me this past year.
Houston ASA is a separate entity from Texas ASA.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 12:07pm
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However...there are many ASA that aren't worth a $hit!!! OPINIONThat you didn't offer??


Why do you bother, Sam. I'm well aware of that and have worked with quite a few. Some from your area. But the discussion is based on the perception that because someone works NCAA, they are the best. It just isn't a fact.

BTW, of course, they are a OPINIONS which is most of what is offered on any message board, including this one.

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Like in baseball, the fact that someone has attained a certain level does not make them the best/more experience or higher than the next guy/gal. It simply means they are the best/more experienced available. Alot of "the best/more experienced available "umpires are not working on the spring weekends?
The point of this comment?

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And there is one thing that some do not realize. ASA considers the rule book part of the package teams and umpires get for their registration. Ummm...yeh!! And you think it is a bargain? So does Amway!!


As opposed to being a leech and expecting everything for nothing?

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The NCAA does not have an umpire's association and I doubt they register the coach/team as an independent entity. They are a conglomerate of educational institutions banded together for the benefit and coordination of athletic programs. Kinda like companies (IBM, General Motors, Microsoft...etc... hiring the best available person to do the job they require?


Actually, EXACTLY like the companies you mentioned. The people they hire are NOT necessarily the BEST, but as you noted, the best AVAILABLE who is willing to do the job they way the COMPANY wants it for the money the company wants to pay. In many cases that involves sucking up to certain people, being a "yes" person, and totally abandoning any level of ethics, morality or loyalty. That's a pretty harsh insinuation about the NCAA folks and your fellow umpires.

Then again, I didn't say it, you did.

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Your right. AmWay or any other pyramid scheme can do the same?? Those at the top get a percentage of the company fees, from there it trickles down...to those who...who generate some type of registration...whether it be team..insurance...umpire...uniform..etc..?? Thats why a $3.00 rule book cost $50-$65.00?


And that would be the organization the umpire voluntarily joins and controls through participating in the associations meetings, votes and elections. You do that right?

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Nothing inherently wrong with it...but lets be forthright in acknowledging it??
Never disavowed any such concern or suggest otherwise. You did that.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 07:54am
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It is obvious most of you have no idea what the actual registration rate for an ASA umpireis, even though it is clearly noted in the code.

And I'm not going to tell you. Look it up.
The code is not relevent. we pay our yearly dues to our association.... ASA's take vs the association take when its divied up is another matter.

Although some of you guys are getting jacked on your dues thats for sure. WAY too much.
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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 11:49am
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The code is not relevent. we pay our yearly dues to our association.... ASA's take vs the association take when its divied up is another matter.
It's relevant to a conversation discussing how much "ASA" charges for a book.

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Although some of you guys are getting jacked on your dues thats for sure. WAY too much.
Some do, some don't.
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