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Old Thu Jul 24, 2008, 09:43am
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if you can see the coach while he is screaming "here, here, here", you can pretty much tell whether that is being directed toward a runner or the fielder.
Isn't as much the effect on the fielder (hindered or confused) as who it is directed to?
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Old Thu Jul 24, 2008, 11:11am
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Sit. 1. I would have killed the play, Dead Ball, Interference, Runner at Second Is OUT!!! No brainer. Textbook interference. As for DP, HTBT.

Sit. 2. This one's different. As soon as the 3rd base coach starts yelling, "here, here, here", my interest is piqued. I am thinking he should be telling his runner, "stay, stay" or "back, back". When F5 looks toward 3rd base coach, I have Dead Ball, and I'm going to call an out, but who do you call an out on, under USFA rules? How many outs were there? I don't think I have a DP on this one either, especially if F5 delayed her throw to keep the runner at 3rd close to 3rd base, but again, HTBT.
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Old Thu Jul 24, 2008, 01:07pm
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Isn't as much the effect on the fielder (hindered or confused) as who it is directed to?
The point is to be sure. The coach's obvious argument is going to be, "I was telling my runner to stay here point to the base.

That is why seeing the coach and his/her actions during the sequence would be the indicator on whether the coach was screaming the "directions" for the purpose of instructing the runner or distracting the fielder. If the fielder, that can be construed as INT.
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Old Thu Jul 24, 2008, 01:26pm
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The point is to be sure. The coach's obvious argument is going to be, "I was telling my runner to stay here point to the base.

That is why seeing the coach and his/her actions during the sequence would be the indicator on whether the coach was screaming the "directions" for the purpose of instructing the runner or distracting the fielder. If the fielder, that can be construed as INT.

And if not, that would be DMF, which personally I feel that it is anyway, at least to an extent.
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Old Thu Jul 24, 2008, 01:32pm
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And if not, that would be DMF, which personally I feel that it is anyway, at least to an extent.
Do not disagree especially if the coach is a male. However, this is one of the things where the age and/or level of play could influence the judgment as whether it would be INT or not. Men's Major, not a shot; JO 12U, quite possible.
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Old Thu Jul 24, 2008, 01:37pm
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Do not disagree especially if the coach is a male. However, this is one of the things where the age and/or level of play could influence the judgment as whether it would be INT or not. Men's Major, not a shot; JO 12U, quite possible.
Won't argue with that. I was always leaving INT as possible, just not as likely in the second scenario.
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