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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 02:48pm
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Did I witness the (in)famous fist pump?

Last night's Co-Ed Softball Game:

We had a fairly decent umpire (if one ignores the usual "deep" and "hit the plate" stuff anyways. )

A few times, though, I noticed him signalling where he put his fists together as if he was holding an imaginary bat and banging them together twice. All I could think of was "Is this the first-pumping I read about on the officiating forum?"

I'm not quite sure what it means, but my top two choices would be:

(1) Pitch is a ball because it jammed the player, or
(2) Ok guys, I'd like to get a chance to bat, too.
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 03:12pm
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Is that not hitting the plate? I know from doing USSSA if it hit the plate it was not a strike. I am pretty sure that is what he was doing. Did he do it instead of calling a strike or ball? If so, it signals the ball hitting the plate. If he did it some other time, your guess is as good as mine.

Another one is the ump tapping his shoulder. Used to tell the pitcher he was deep and over the front shoulder.
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 03:29pm
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I hate it when...

umpires "commentate" pitches. "Ball, deep" or "Ball, outside" with the "appropriate hand signal".

I asked a partner of mine one night during our slow pitch league how he would call a pitch that was no higher than 10' and landed 3" behind the tip of the plate. His response was "Strike". I then asked him why he wouldn't say "Strike, right down the middle". I made my point and he is working losing this bad habit.

There is no hand signal for the ball hitting the plate. Nor is there one for a pitch that is "deep" or "inside" or "outside". They are all just "Ball".

Also, the hitting of the hands together as if you are holding a bat has been known to signify "good call" from your partner.
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 03:41pm
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I stopped doing the "Mashed Potato" behind the plate a long time ago.

Yep, sounds like you witnessed it. No, it's not an approved ASA hand signal.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 04:07pm
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Did the same guy ever call out "Gotta be"?
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 04:09pm
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Is that not hitting the plate? I know from doing USSSA if it hit the plate it was not a strike. I am pretty sure that is what he was doing. Did he do it instead of calling a strike or ball? If so, it signals the ball hitting the plate. If he did it some other time, your guess is as good as mine.

Another one is the ump tapping his shoulder. Used to tell the pitcher he was deep and over the front shoulder.
In this league, the umpire usually just says "hit the plate," but maybe he threw in that signal for variety.

In the first game I attended this year, we had an umpire call a ball that hit the plate as such and I had to keep from calling out "yeah, but is it a ball or a strike?" (since honestly, I didn't know that hitting the plate is a ball in SP up until that point)

I've seen the deep signal used so often this summer, I'm thinking of bringing swim trunks to the playoffs if our team qualifies
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 05:11pm
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I don't use it but I have seen this before. I think he was saying 3 balls 2 strikes (full count)
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 05:14pm
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I don't use it but I have
seen this before. I think he was saying 3 balls 2 strikes (full count)
I hate that "mechanic". I have yet to see any of my partners use the double fist pump but pitch location commentary has been plenty. I think I confuse some of the players by just calling ball, strike or illegal with the DDB signal. I haven't gotten all of the "advanced mechanics" such as the deep signal and low and not quite over the plate down yet.
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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 05:17pm
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I hate that "mechanic". I have yet to see any of my partners use the double fist pump but pitch location commentary has been plenty. I think I confuse some of the players by just calling ball, strike or illegal with the DDB signal. I haven't gotten all of the "advanced mechanics" such as the deep signal and low and not quite over the plate down yet.
Sounds like someone needs to hit a few more clinics.

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Old Wed Jun 25, 2008, 05:34pm
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I hate that "mechanic". I have yet to see any of my partners use the double fist pump but pitch location commentary has been plenty. I think I confuse some of the players by just calling ball, strike or illegal with the DDB signal. I haven't gotten all of the "advanced mechanics" such as the deep signal and low and not quite over the plate down yet.
When i first started I know I confused them by just calling balls,strikes and DDB illegal pitch.

But my favorite is when the pitcher, usually with 2 strikes, pitches one into the ozone layer, I call illegal and then asks "TOO high blue ? "

I've thought about replying something smart-a$$ey but they might not get it....
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Old Thu Jun 26, 2008, 09:47am
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Last night's Co-Ed Softball Game:

We had a fairly decent umpire (if one ignores the usual "deep" and "hit the plate" stuff anyways. )

A few times, though, I noticed him signalling where he put his fists together as if he was holding an imaginary bat and banging them together twice. All I could think of was "Is this the first-pumping I read about on the officiating forum?"

I'm not quite sure what it means, but my top two choices would be:

(1) Pitch is a ball because it jammed the player, or
(2) Ok guys, I'd like to get a chance to bat, too.
I had a guy who did that to signal a 3-2 count. Of course, as he was banging his fists together over his head, he was yelling, "Full boat! Full boat!"
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Old Fri Jun 27, 2008, 10:32pm
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...he was yelling, "Full boat! Full boat!"
Aces over eights.
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