Out or award base or bases

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Speaking ASA

To start, there is no catch.

As previously noted, if first touch was over foul territory, it is simply a foul ball.

If fair, it is a ground rule double based upon 8.5.I. Since there was never control on the field of play, I don't see how this can be handled any differently than a ball which deflects off a fielder and out of play.

After more thought and reading think I am going to change my opinion and go with the 2 base award on a fair ball.

However, if it is first touched foul and ruled foul, would you not award 1 base to the other runners?

[snorman75]

I LOVE this question first!!

Ok let me try.

First, it is a fair ball. we all know that
As for the catch, I would have to see it. Since all the fun is with no catch lets go with that.
Now I am sure on the spot after calling no catch and fair ball, I would award one base for everyone.
But I love this idea of a double, and I think it is right. Lets say a line drive to the right fielder, it bounces and hits the fielder in the head and bounces over the fence. That is a double. We have the same thing here, since there was never control for a catch.
With that I would award the batter 2nd forcing in one run and moving the runner from second to 3rd.

again GREAT situation.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Dholloway1962

After more thought and reading think I am going to change my opinion and go with the 2 base award on a fair ball.

However, if it is first touched foul and ruled foul, would you not award 1 base to the other runners?

Why would you?

It wasn't a catch/carry with a fair ball - we awarded 2 bases to the batter and all runners because we had a fair batted ball enter DBT.

If we have an uncaught foul ball, which we do, we aren't going to advance runners.

[IRISHMAFIA]

#1. How can a player carry a ball that, by rule, they have not caught?

#2. I think there is no question that the runner's departure from the field of play was not intentional in any manner, let alone to prevent runners from advancing.

#3. It seems there are a few folks trying to insert conditions not provided for in this and a few other scenarios recently.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

#1. How can a player carry a ball that, by rule, they have not caught?

In his hat?

In the crook of his arm?

Balanced on the tip of his nose?

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

Why would you?

It wasn't a catch/carry with a fair ball - we awarded 2 bases to the batter and all runners because we had a fair batted ball enter DBT.

If we have an uncaught foul ball, which we do, we aren't going to advance runners.

Had a blonde moment!! I was thinking too much into it!