Another Obstruction Question(s).

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by THREE

Question #1..
R1 rounds first base and is obstructed by F3.
R1 continues to second base and is thrown out at second base.

Question #2..
R1 rounds first base and is obstructed by F3.
R1 continues around second base and is thrown out at third base.

Question #3..
R1 rounds first base and is obsructed by F3.
R1 continues around second and third base and is thrown out at home plate.

What's the call in the above three situations????

Thanks

Simple. Delayed dead ball signal given, and OBS announced. If you are asking the awards, then I cannot say. That is dependant on which bases the umpire felt the runner could have attained had the OBS not occurred. This applies to all three situations/questions.

Now, in the first case, the runner could not be put out between the bases in which the OBS occurred, so they are either going to be awarded second or returned to first. (Though some codes make the reward of second automatic.) As to the other two, strictly umpire judgement based on the play. The runner could be out, or there could be a base award coming.

[DeputyUICHousto]

An obstructed runner can be put out between the two bases he was obstructed between if he commits a subsequent act of interference. Just wanted to make sure we didn't muddy the waters...lol.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

Just wanted to make sure we didn't muddy the waters...lol.

You just succeeded in doing that. There was no mention of INT in the OP.

[3afan]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

...There was no mention of INT in the OP.

correct, there wasnt

[kcg NC2Ablu]

in all cases if you protect a runner to a base you award it at the end if it is not reached. if the runner continues past it or commits an act of interference subsequent to the obs then in both those cases the runner can be put out. All of which are judgement calls.

[DeputyUICHousto]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Now, in the first case, the runner could not be put out between the bases in which the OBS occurred, so they are either going to be awarded second or returned to first.

I was referring to this part of the post just prior to mine. What I've quoted here is not correct. But I see your point in that the OP didn't mention INT.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

I was referring to this part of the post just prior to mine. What I've quoted here is not correct. But I see your point in that the OP didn't mention INT.

But it is correct insofar as the OP was concerned. Remember, we are not discussing the entire rule or range of possibilities of OBS, just what the OP asked.

[robbie]

As said - we do not know if it was a routine single or a gapper (Situation #3)
Assuming it is a gapper (or similar) I will watch the play develop before forming in my mind to where she will be protected. No way at that point am I determining double, triple, or HR. if outfielder bobbles in outfield or whatever, and the runner is ultimately thrown out at plate - I'm likely ruling that the OBS at first was slowing enough to cause the out. Therefore I have safe (award of home).

Maybe to be clearer - any subsequent "close play out" would likely result in awarding that base.

Of course this would not necessarily be true with stops and pauses and throws and run downs , etc that may happen. I'm talking about continous play.

[DaveASA/FED]

O no here we go again, the great make a decision at the time of the OBS vs watch the play develop then make the decision.....I hate this one

[CecilOne]

Before we go off into a hijack, it seems like a lot of our OBS discussions hinge on remembering that "which bases the umpire felt the runner could have attained had the OBS not occurred" is the key and that key is JUDGEMENT, not a defined formula.


Yes, absent INT, the "between the bases" aspect, and other runners effect.