Illegal glove

[TwoBits]

In a USSSA tournament this weekend, the coach of the batting team wanted a base award for the center fielder using and illegal glove when she caught a fly ball. She was using a first baseman's mitt. USSSA, just like NFHS, does not differentiate between a glove or a mitt as long as they meet the size requirements. I told the coach this and added that I do believe that ASA does not allow mitts to be used anywhere but catcher and first base. Am I correct?

[wadeintothem]

no you arent

[JefferMC]

ASA changed that a few years ago.

[TwoBits]

Good to know. Thanks!

[Umpteenth]

So, in ASA, is the use of a 1B glove limited to those playing 1B? Or, 1B and C? I've looked through Rule 3 and find nothing whatsoever that covers the use of a 1B glove. What prevents "everyone" from using a 1B glove?

From the perspective of Mens' SP wreck...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Umpteenth

So, in ASA, is the use of a 1B glove limited to those playing 1B? Or, 1B and C? I've looked through Rule 3 and find nothing whatsoever that covers the use of a 1B glove. What prevents "everyone" from using a 1B glove?

From the perspective of Mens' SP wreck...

In ASA, a defender can use any legal glove or mitt at any defensive position.

[Umpteenth]

Thanks, Irish!!

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

In ASA, a defender can use any legal glove or mitt at any defensive position.

So, where would a mitt be illegal for other than F2 & F3?

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

In a USSSA tournament this weekend, the coach of the batting team wanted a base award for the center fielder using and illegal glove when she caught a fly ball....

Fast or slow pitch?

As silly as it seems, the USSSA rules do allow a glove or mitt at any position in fastpitch, but restrict mitts to only the first baseman and catcher in slow pitch.

And it gets even sillier! For NSA, the exact opposite is true! They allow mitts for every position in slow pitch, but not in fastpitch!

If you deal with multiple asscociations, this rule is split pretty much down the middle. Best to check your rule book if you're dealing with an unfamiliar sanction.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

So, where would a mitt be illegal for other than F2 & F3?

Oh I dunno.. I'm thinking its illegal for any position when it doesnt comply with R3 dimensions.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

So, where would a mitt be illegal for other than F2 & F3?

Dunno, didn't I just note that it wasn't?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Dunno, didn't I just note that it wasn't?

I meant other sanctions (besides ASA, NFHS, USSSA).

Originally Posted by TwoBits

In a USSSA tournament this weekend, the coach of the batting team wanted a base award for the center fielder using and illegal glove when she caught a fly ball. She was using a first baseman's mitt. USSSA, just like NFHS, does not differentiate between a glove or a mitt as long as they meet the size requirements. I told the coach this and added that I do believe that ASA does not allow mitts to be used anywhere but catcher and first base. Am I correct?

You blew the call. In USSSA slow-pitch, the mitt is only allowed for 1B and C, as indicated by others on the thread. Since it was a caught fly ball, you should have had the center fielder remove the mitt, bring the batter back with the count prior to the batted ball (that pitch would not count), and advance all runners one base. If the ball hadn't been caught, as soon as the play ends, you would have called time, and advanced everyone one base no matter how the play transpired.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

You blew the call...

Maybe. Or, maybe not.

I don't see where the (year old!) post specified it was or wasn't a slow pitch game.

His ruling has a 50/50 chance of being right!

Originally Posted by BretMan

Maybe. Or, maybe not.

I don't see where the (year old!) post specified it was or wasn't a slow pitch game.

His ruling has a 50/50 chance of being right!

True...I thought he said later it was a slow-pitch game, but in review, I notice you were asking whether it was slow or fast-pitch. My bad. Now I'll head to the wood shed for my flogging.