Disqualified ?

[wadeintothem]

ASA rules.. this is an ejection.

Its common practice in our area to allow players to stay on then bench for stuff like this. Not sure up where you are.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

ASA rules.. this is an ejection.

Its common practice in our area to allow players to stay on then bench for stuff like this. Not sure up where you are.

Speaking ASA.

The rules require an ejected team member to leave the grounds and have no contact with the team or umpire. 4.8.B

[softballistough]

I was under the impression that "malicious contact" was an ejection




I guess the hard part was, " Was this Malicious"

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by softballistough

I was under the impression that "malicious contact" was an ejection





I guess the hard part was, " Was this Malicious"

I was trying to figure out when is it a DQ versus an ejection....

The contact was more then it should have been but not malicious......

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I was trying to figure out when is it a DQ versus an ejection....

The contact was more then it should have been but not malicious......

Its either malicious and an ejection or its not. You dont DQ or eject a player because it was "almost malicious".

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Its either malicious and an ejection or its not. You dont DQ or eject a player because it was "almost malicious".

I would agree with you. Lets just say my partner was a little....high strung.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Speaking ASA.

The rules require an ejected team member to leave the grounds and have no contact with the team or umpire. 4.8.B

I know that, thanks.

[bigsig]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

ASA rules.. this is an ejection.

Its common practice in our area to allow players to stay on then bench for stuff like this. Not sure up where you are.

I agree, even though the rule says ejection, leave the area, I am reluctant to order a girl to leave the area unescorted. We usually do a bench restriction.

[Dutch Alex]

Originally Posted by bigsig

I agree, even though the rule says ejection, leave the area, I am reluctant to order a girl to leave the area unescorted. We usually do a bench restriction.

We don't. There's always a lockerroom or canteen where the ejected player can go. Last month however, I ejected a player for her big mouth. I was under the impression that she left the field. I didn't hear, nor see her. After the game I was informed that she actualy stayed in the dug out...

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by Dutch Alex

We don't. There's always a lockerroom or canteen where the ejected player can go. Last month however, I ejected a player for her big mouth. I was under the impression that she left the field. I didn't hear, nor see her. After the game I was informed that she actualy stayed in the dug out...

Ejection over attitude is different than malicious contact. Attitude sitting on the bench is a cancer that can cause trouble. I've made them leave the park. Ejection over malicious contact.. typically they are at least pretending to be sorry and dont cause trouble and know what they did. I dont get teary eyed over malicious contact or injuries or potential injuries. I simply eject them because that is the rule. I dont remember anyone ever getting ejected for killing me when I was catcher... but hey, thats the rule, so I eject them and look the other way if when they walk into the dugout.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Dutch Alex

We don't. There's always a lockerroom or canteen where the ejected player can go. Last month however, I ejected a player for her big mouth. I was under the impression that she left the field. I didn't hear, nor see her. After the game I was informed that she actualy stayed in the dug out...

I wish I had that luxury when calling SP. The guys can't shut up before they're ejected, while they're being ejected, and most certainly NOT after being ejected.

Actually, this year has been a quiet year for me. Only one toss, and it had nothing to do with me or my calls.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

I wish I had that luxury when calling SP. The guys can't shut up before they're ejected, while they're being ejected, and most certainly NOT after being ejected.

Actually, this year has been a quiet year for me. Only one toss, and it had nothing to do with me or my calls.

Coaches and male fp/sp players.. gotta go. No hanging around. Girls, maybe I just dont notice it.. all FP players look alike and are named carlie or kaylie, so how the heck do I know who it is?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Coaches and male fp/sp players.. gotta go. No hanging around. Girls, maybe I just dont notice it.. all FP players look alike and are named carlie or kaylie, so how the heck do I know who it is?

Well, if I toss someone and they go quietly, I'll continue the game without much delay. I know ASA says you're to wait until an ejected player is gone, but if a player shrugs, says, "yeah, you're right. Sorry, guys," I'm not going to stare him down all the way to the parking lot.

In fact, one game, I tossed a guy for violating Mike's favorite "no profanity" rule. Hey, local rules, not mine. He kept quiet all the way to the dugout, changed his shoes quickly and quietly, and started out the dugout to the parking lot. I signal "play ball," but my BU starts yelling, "no, sir, you do not!" This BU has been known to be a bit of a hot-head, and the players didn't care much for him. As I'm walking towards my partner to tell him, "hey, he's going quietly, there's no need for this," the ejected player now realizes that he's being singled out and starts tossing a bunch of profanity in the direction of my BU, all the way out to the parking lot. Frankly, my partner deserved it (and I don't say that very often).

Yes, procedures are procedures, but sometimes, a little professional discretion is justifiable.

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Actually, this year has been a quiet year for me. Only one toss, and it had nothing to do with me or my calls.

Did someone take your partners parking space?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

Did someone take your partners parking space?

Nah, Ol' Bill's got his own handicapped parking space.

Just kidding. I know where he puts the keys to his truck, and I've been waiting for the right moment to move his truck on him.

Actually, the only ejection I've had so far was for USC. He taunted the other team a little too much, so I gave him a warning. Next inning, his team made a great play, so he started yelling at the opponent his teammate had tagged out, "yeah, that's right! You're out, pal! Get going! Left! Right! Left! Right! Left! Right!"

Yeah, that did it for him.