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What the hell does that have to do with my point? Obviously I included a range of baseball umpires from HS to MLB .. so there is nothing in that range of umpires that would indicate that I was only talking about the best. I was talking about any competent baseball umpire. My point was if you are sitting there drooling into your potato chips because you just cant figure out if a baseball umpire is calling strikes or balls, you should not be anywhere near any diamond. Their signals are not confusing. No umpire should have any trouble working with an umpire using various calls as part of their plate work. Likewise, softball signals are not confusing. Some are robotic.. but when they eventually make them, you understand it just fine.
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Have you seen tim McClelland work? it takes him like till the 9th inning to call the strike from the 1st inning on the 1st batter.... just bc they dont have mics on ALL the umpires at the NCAA regionals and supers doesnt mean that people don know what they called. the announcers are GARBAGE they dont even know they are at a softball game half the time. As softball umpires we call in the down posistion pop up ... signal ... take a step back. What about the guys who work scissors with a point for a strike in MLB... they take just as long or longer to signal... o WAIT they signal and VERBALIZE at the same time so really they take longer.... |
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The announcers are sitting right behind the PU at most NCAA games. If they are missing it.. guess what? Maybe we need to rethunk it.
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One in particular would use a scissor stand with right hand on his knee. A strike call was simply raise the right hand in front of his chest. From behind the plate, the movement was not noticeable. From the outfield, it was not noticeable. This is my only complaint about "private" mechanics. To me, this is an umpire who has placed style before communications. You are right, you don't see it often, and for some, possibly never. It's just that I have. |
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Well I would think there should be a happy medium somewhere. If someone had a strike signal that was poor in quality, that would be an evaluation "ding"... as opposed to how it is now....
"No dont do the hammer that way, thats the NCAA way, do it this way, the ASA way"
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Gotta disagree with you, again. A signal is just that, a signal. Meant to convery a message. The best way to convey that message clearly to everyone in a ballpark is to give a universal signal, not some variant that you or I choose to use. In your opinion, then, where should this morphing of signals end. Is it okay for me to point to the ground for a strike, if that is my desired strike call? Where do we draw the line? I am also telling you that there are some signals in the groups of umpires you named that fail to convey the message. I have been at a MLB park where, due to my angle to the plate, I couldn't see the little side point, and due to my distance from the plate I couldn't hear a call. THAT umpire failed to communicate to me and the hundreds of fans around me. Had he come up with a big, clear, hammer, we all would have known what the call was. To me, the hokey is with those people who feel we should "express ourselves" on the field rather than use the prescribed signals.
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