obstruction question

[LMSANS]

Signal DDB, "Obstruction",
"out",
"out",
"Time out" "Obstruction, R1 stays at 2b"
"1 out"

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by LMSANS

Signal DDB, "Obstruction",
"out",
"out",
"Time out" "Obstruction, R1 stays at 2b"
"1 out"

Disagree LM. Once R1 was forced the ball is dead. No other play can occur. R1 at 2b, BR (or R2 at this point) at 1 B...no outs

[LMSANS]

Originally Posted by Dholloway1962

Disagree LM. Once R1 was forced the ball is dead. No other play can occur. R1 at 2b, BR (or R2 at this point) at 1 B...no outs

I sit corrected. Dholloway is correct, the ball becomes dead on the force out.

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by LMSANS

I sit corrected. Dholloway is correct, the ball becomes dead on the force out.

Put this one in the record book...I got one right!!!

[scroobs]

Originally Posted by LMSANS

Signal DDB, "Obstruction",
"out",
"out",
"Time out" "Obstruction, R1 stays at 2b"
"1 out"

thanks guys for clearing this up...my clinition likes LMSANS prior view on the ruling, which confused me re: killing it when the out occured on OBS runner...

[CecilOne]

What if you judged that R1 would not have reached 2nd even w/o the OBS?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

What if you judged that R1 would not have reached 2nd even w/o the OBS?

Doesn't matter in this case, since the ball went dead with the supposed force out, the BR gets 1B, forcing R1 to 2B.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Doesn't matter in this case, since the ball went dead with the supposed force out, the BR gets 1B, forcing R1 to 2B.

I was hoping someone less knowing would answer first, so I should have said so.
OK, how about OBS on R1 going to 2nd, BR out at 1st, then a tag play on R1? ITUJ, R1 somehow would not have reached 2nd, OBS or not.

Answer only if you have not seen snow in the past 2 weeks

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Answer only if you have not seen snow in the past 2 weeks

He||, I've seen snow in the last 2 hours!

[strike4]

Would you kill the play if you had a runner on 2b who is rounding 3b to score when the obs runner is called out at 2b?

[youngump]

Originally Posted by strike4

Would you kill the play if you had a runner on 2b who is rounding 3b to score when the obs runner is called out at 2b?

Yes. Then you decide if they would have scored and award them 3rd or home. The play is dead when an obstructed runner would otherwise be out for obstruction but is not because of that obstruction.
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[DaveASA/FED]

Originally Posted by strike4

Would you kill the play if you had a runner on 2b who is rounding 3b to score when the obs runner is called out at 2b?

Yes and then award the runner or runners the bases they would have gotten had there been no OBS, so you can award that runner home if you feel they would have gotten it had there been no OBS.

Edit: Youngump must have been hitting submit when I was logging in...so I will say....ya what he said