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Mon Mar 11, 2002, 01:14pm
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After rereading this scenario and some replies, my posts may have confused some.
There is nothing wrong with going to a partner for help when necessary. When a coach is questioning your judgment alone, that is not one of the times it is necessary. Now, if I realized I kicked a call and that coach comes to me with anything other than questioning my judgment, I may give him/her the benefit of the doubt and visit my partner unless I had a better angle than s/he. I will not permit it to become a habit.
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Mon Mar 11, 2002, 08:05pm
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Thanks Mike........I thought that's what you meant.....
 Also...........I think everyone else is pretty much on the same page here.......... One question to Roger though....... If you are BU and you see a ball get fouled off of the batter that the PU does NOT call..........don't you just go ahead and call it a dead ball.......... Hit batters and balls fouled off of the batter, I have been taught to go ahead and step in......... We also use a closed fist for a caught third strike and foul tips close to the ground......... Joel
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Mon Mar 11, 2002, 10:46pm
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Yes to both questions. On 3rd strike I ask partner to either make the closed fist at his belt or point one finger toward ground.
Re: the foul ball or hit by pitch. If I'm in the field and either occures then I kill play with a dead ball call, and let PU declare the foul ball or inteference with a fair ball. I've had BU just stand there though, untill I ask. Had a HBP last week in BB game.Batter ducked and turned in, F2 stood up and blocked me as I tried to track pitch. I thought ball skipped off batter's shoulder, but BU in C made no signal. Everbody froze, and I had to call across the infield to confirm the HBP. I explained to the newbee in post game that if he saw that to go ahead and kill the ball, that PU can use his signal as info in making his call. Roger Greene
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Tue Mar 12, 2002, 12:05pm
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Well, Lady Blue had a strange thing happen to her about 6 years ago on a Men's Slowpitch game. No one on base, BR hits to SS, I trot in for my angle on the bag and right when the ball comes---SMACK! A huge bug flew in my eye! I nearly died! I couldn't do anything but cover my eye and point to my partner, who thank god was trailing, for the call. Luckily, one of the guys had some saline so I could wash my eye and clean my contact. We all had a big laugh.
But, on a call that I know I've nailed, I tell the coach, "it's my call and it stands. Let's play ball."
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Elaine "Lady Blue" Metro Atlanta ASA (retired) Georgia High School NFHS (retired) Mom of former Travel Player National Indicator Fraternity 1995
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