Help with a partner

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

If you are using thearbiter its very easy to block him.

Another advantage of The Arbiter. Fortunately, now, both college organizations I work with, the HS association I work with, and the local ASA association all use The Arbiter now.

[Chess Ref]

In our ASA schedules it is very much looked down upon blocking out a partner. The tournament games are genrally hand assigned and not Arbitered.

Having said that I had a partner this weekend who knew everything, except how to clean up his messes.

He was PU , called a ball fair that was obviously foul. he finally comes to me to ask me how to sell the defensive coach on his girl touched the ball. She didn't and my partner knew that but didn't want to look bad...His words. I convinced him to go with the correct call-foul ball.

He was BU grounder to short, runner on 2b comes close to interfering, HTBT judgement call, not a problem he has a no call. F6 throws to 1B close play. Partner has deer in the headlights look. THEN decides to call the runner out for interference. No deadball no nothing. There was no cleaning that one up.

I'm PU. Player fouls the ball,apparently off her thigh. I missed it. Partner rings up the out. Offensive coach tells me it was painfully obvious. I get a sinking feeling in my stomach but go to my partner to see if he had anything.

His words ,paraphrased, " Yea i had it hitting her but I was trying to get an out-hoping neither of the coaches would notice. "

We talked about these things after the game and he got all defensive so I let it go. UIC of our area showed up and got an earful from tourney director.

I know we all kick calls,I speak from experience, have to clean up our messes but at least lets be teachable .

Over on the basketball forum they have a saying
"get in, get it done. get out. "
That was my experience with this partner.

[wadeintothem]

we cant block in tourney ball either.. it is all done by hand.
I suppose you could be a PITA and whine.. I just take what I get at the tournies.

I've never blocked anyone in NFHS but I've considered it.

Luckily there are enough fields running and umpires assigned that its a fair chance you wont see them again for awhile anyway .... If they are really bad, they usually vanish into 10U/12U land or wherever they send em.

[Andy]

Chess - unfortunately, many of us that have been around for awhile have had similar experiences with partners.

Speaking from experience as an assignor, it sometimes gets to the point where you just take warm bodies to fill the spots, I don't like it, but it is a reality. You just assign the game and hope (pray) for the best.

Best advice I can provide is to do your job and cover your responsibilities to the best of your ability. Be supportive of your partner on the field, but don't be a janitor, let him clean up his own messes......

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by Andy

Chess - unfortunately, many of us that have been around for awhile have had similar experiences with partners.

Speaking from experience as an assignor, it sometimes gets to the point where you just take warm bodies to fill the spots, I don't like it, but it is a reality. You just assign the game and hope (pray) for the best.

Best advice I can provide is to do your job and cover your responsibilities to the best of your ability. Be supportive of your partner on the field, but don't be a janitor, let him clean up his own messes......

It definetly makes me appreciative of the good partners.

[MGKBLUE]

True story.

I was watching a high school softball game and heard this exchange between the two head coaches before the game as the umpires were walking up to the field:

Coach 1: Do you know any of the umpires?

C2: Yes, I know the plate umpire.

C1: What is he like?

C2: He is not a bad umpire, but I can guarantee you he will boot at least one call during the game. I cannot tell you whether it will go for you or against you, but it will happen.

C1: Okay, lets see what happens.

You can only guess what happened in the 6th innings of a tied game.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I...I had a partner this weekend who knew everything, except how to clean up his messes. ... he finally comes to me to ask me how to sell the defensive coach on his girl touched the ball. She didn't and my partner knew that but didn't want to look bad...... " Yea i had it hitting her but I was trying to get an out-hoping neither of the coaches would notice."...

JMO, but from your description, his problem was not knowing how to clean UP his messes, his problem is he seems to lack integrity.