I hate to say I told you guys so...

[JPRempe]

...but the ASA's testing procedure for bats now mirrors experiments done by several universities and individuals (including myself) in that an accelerated break in process definitely helps the current generation of 98mph rated composite bats exceed the 98mph BBS barrier by a significant margin. Some bats actually had their effective BBS raised by as much as 9MPH during said testing. We're not talking about shaving and/or endloading bats here, but rather putting them through the process called "rolling".

This new testing procedure also shows that the more you legally hit/use a composite bat, the more likely it will be to also exceed said limit based on the effective swing speed of the bat (again, we're talking about the current generation composite bats).

In short, the bat manufacturers are going to have to get with the program so as to not have their bats either banned/grandfathered/whatever result the ASA comes to. The next generation of bats are either going to come straight out of the wrapper at the 96-98 BBS area and be limited on overall durability, or will come out at a much lower BBS rating in the hopes that the bat eventually achieves the desired BBS rating. Either way, there are going to be a whole bunch of new bats on the horizon...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by JPRempe

...but the ASA's testing procedure for bats now mirrors experiments done by several universities and individuals (including myself) in that an accelerated break in process definitely helps the current generation of 98mph rated composite bats exceed the 98mph BBS barrier by a significant margin. Some bats actually had their effective BBS raised by as much as 9MPH during said testing. We're not talking about shaving and/or endloading bats here, but rather putting them through the process called "rolling".

This new testing procedure also shows that the more you legally hit/use a composite bat, the more likely it will be to also exceed said limit based on the effective swing speed of the bat (again, we're talking about the current generation composite bats).

In short, the bat manufacturers are going to have to get with the program so as to not have their bats either banned/grandfathered/whatever result the ASA comes to. The next generation of bats are either going to come straight out of the wrapper at the 96-98 BBS area and be limited on overall durability, or will come out at a much lower BBS rating in the hopes that the bat eventually achieves the desired BBS rating. Either way, there are going to be a whole bunch of new bats on the horizon...

Who told who what?????

The improvement in performance was pretty much common knowledge, wouldn't you think?

The problem was that contracts with the manufacturers did not permit ASA to test used bats, but only bats randomly purchased new. The only "shock" I experienced was that OKC seemed stunned at the results of testing used bats.

I think you are going to see more aluminum, multi-walled bats returning to the market.

[Dakota]

One of the top 10 lies of all time... "I hate to say I told you so..."

[wadeintothem]

Their bat list is already almost unmanageable.. the days of a cute little folded up piece of paper in your line up card holder are nearly gone.. we may soon need a 3 ring binder on the field to figure this bat thing out.

This is ASA's problem. I could care less about the specs of a used bat until ASA makes me care, which I hope is no time soon.

[3afan]

there are too many banned bats already - something needs done

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Their bat list is already almost unmanageable.. the days of a cute little folded up piece of paper in your line up card holder are nearly gone.. we may soon need a 3 ring binder on the field to figure this bat thing out.

This is ASA's problem. I could care less about the specs of a used bat until ASA makes me care, which I hope is no time soon.

So, how much less could you care?

Maybe you should check out the death of Greg Ferguson

http://www.houstonsportsplex.com/

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

So, how much less could you care?

Maybe you should check out the death of Greg Ferguson

http://www.houstonsportsplex.com/

Its of course terrible, as is the death of many others if we dug around.. I pretty much guarantee you a good shot off a new easton stealth or RT or any other bat will could put you down as well. I dont know which bat was used in his incident.

It's still ASA problem and the bat thing is still well out of hand, which is ASA's fault. They set their standards... Manufacturers like to make money so they comply, ASA is now chasing their tail because obviously ASA goofed up.

The ONLY banned bats SHOULD be: Hot bats (bats designed to intentionally be outside ASA specs) modified bats, and damaged bats.

Any thing else represents MAJOR failures on the part of the ASA bat cert program.