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Old Sun Feb 03, 2008, 10:00pm
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Michael,

Nice meeting you this past weekend, hope you enjoyed the clinic.

Your points are somewhat of a reflection of my argument since they approved the use of metal spikes in HS.

You are correct, college has used them for a while. The difference is that the players in college are proven athletes. Many, most in some areas, in high school are not.

In Louisville at the ASA convention, Mary S. even stated that there was no research or statistical information to support the change.
Mike,

Nice meeting you also. Perhaps coaches will give feedback to their players regarding the pros and cons of metal spikes. I'm curious to see how many of the players make the switch.

I enjoyed the clinic and would welcome the opporturnity to work games with you in the future.
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Old Sun Feb 03, 2008, 11:30pm
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Why are metal spikes even an issue?

Every boy that plays baseball goes to metal spikes at age 13. At least around here they do. Why would this be any more of a challenge for the young ladies?
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Old Mon Feb 04, 2008, 10:22am
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Why are metal spikes even an issue?

Every boy that plays baseball goes to metal spikes at age 13. At least around here they do. Why would this be any more of a challenge for the young ladies?
Exactly because the ladies have not been wearing them since age 13. There is going to be an adjustment period for the players to get used to them.
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Old Mon Feb 04, 2008, 11:01am
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The Federation web site has some information available for coaches (mostly comments from college coaches) on how to prepare players for wearing metal cleats. It is a reprint of something the NFCA put together.

Here is the link to the softball information page at NFHS:

NFHS Softball Information

Here is the PDF document on cleats:

Transitioning to Metal Cleats
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Old Mon Feb 04, 2008, 12:57pm
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Exactly because the ladies have not been wearing them since age 13. There is going to be an adjustment period for the players to get used to them.
And as has been discussed in the past, there are some anatomical differences which can be an issue for some.
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Old Sun Feb 03, 2008, 11:32pm
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Irish...don't I remember it was you who submitted a rule change at the ASA convention about ASA going to metal spikes?
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Old Mon Feb 04, 2008, 07:18am
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Metal cleats

I can think of one issue that is a big problem here in the South -- and it is the same problem we face w/ pitching.

Fast pitch in the South is only one generation old -- our game down here is not as mature as in some other parts of the country. Fast pitch went out in the 1950s when the cotton mills quit playing the men's game and did not come back until Title IX issues forced fast pitch upon us (certain suburbs excluded)

So we have a lot of folks coaching ball teams who aren't very savvy about fast pitch -- whether it's the stealing game or pitching. Girls aren't being taught to slide properly, just as they aren't being taught pitching mechanics until their parents hire a private pitching coach. And that works its way into high school ball where many HS teams are coached by someone who never PLAYED fast pitch.

So we are equipping young girls w/ weapons on their feet and not providing them training on the proper use. It's different in baseball -- we've been playing that forever, and most Daddys -- given a choice -- gravitate toward coaching their sons and leave their daughters to be coached by novice coaches.

Thankfully, since Georgia plays in the fall, we will get to see how this spring goes in some other places before our HS season starts in August.
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Old Mon Feb 04, 2008, 07:31am
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Irish...don't I remember it was you who submitted a rule change at the ASA convention about ASA going to metal spikes?
That is true, but only for 18U players. Like the collegiate player, a young lady doesn't get to this level without being an established athlete.

Again, in many areas, and you will here travel players make this comment, "HS ball is for fun." Because of geographical limitations to which many schools may be restricted, it is not unusual to have young ladies play on the team to fill a roster. Not every HS has a group of softball players that are there as an avenue to a collegiate career.
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