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NFHS batter stepping out of box
In NFHS, if a batter requests time and it is not granted by the umpire and the pitcher delivers the pitch, doesn't the rule say the pitch SHALL by called a strike? I believe in the same scenario in ASA the rule says the pitch shall be called a ball or strike depending on the location of the pitch. Am I reading both of these correctly and if so then if the pitcher air mailed one 6' over the batter, in NFHS it would be a strike??? What do you say? Dave
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That's kind of the way I feel. I bet the majority of coaches don't even realize what the rules actually says. If I called a strike on a pitch that was WAY, WAY out of the strike zone, it would probably be a tough sell to the offensive coach even though I have the rule to back me. Dave
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And where (rhetorically speaking) are the armpits or knees of a batter who isn't in the batter's box? To me, very generous (in ASA) is more than a suggestion; it is a message that should be sent.
In NFHS, I have zero problem calling it a strike; if the coach doesn't know the rule (even with the 2007 POE directing umpires to NOT GRANT TIME), the coach will learn it very quickly.
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I have no problem with calling a strike if the batter steps out of the box if the pitch is close to a liberal strike zone. But that is ASA.
But if I understand this thread correctly, any time the batter steps out of the box, the umpire should call a strike, end of story. No liability to at least throw a decent pitch for the offense. I think that is a pretty stiff penalty simply for giving up on a pitch. Next thought, 2-2 count, batter steps out of the box just prior to the release of the pitch and the pitcher throws the ball out of play. Awarding bases? Including the batter/batter-runner who gave up on an uncaught third strike? |
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I'm out working an 8th grade NFHS game tonight... probably the best team in this league against the worst. Final score was 16-0 in 4.5 innings.
Anyway, Team Best is at bat, and winning like 8-0 at this point. B1 is at bat with a 2-2 count, and for whatever reason, F1 decides to take just a little bit longer than normal with her delivery. B1 asks for time about the same time F1 starts her motion. I go set, B1 backs out of the box thinking she had time, and ...yes, the pitch is about 4 feet above my head and hits the backstop. Any idea what I called?
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