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Old Sat Sep 15, 2007, 07:18pm
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BOO question

Situation: first, second and third batters. Numbers are 1, 2 and 3. Batter 1 is supposed to bat but batter 2 bats and hits popup for an out. Before next pitch defensive manager appeals and says 2 batted and 1 should have. Appeal accepted and 1 is called out for not batting when they should have. Since 2 batted and and popped up for an out, does the out stand and then we put 3 up to bat or do we simply have #2 bat again and not count the pop up out as an out?
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Old Sat Sep 15, 2007, 07:39pm
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Old Sat Sep 15, 2007, 08:19pm
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Situation: first, second and third batters. Numbers are 1, 2 and 3. Batter 1 is supposed to bat but batter 2 bats and hits popup for an out. Before next pitch defensive manager appeals and says 2 batted and 1 should have. Appeal accepted and 1 is called out for not batting when they should have. Since 2 batted and and popped up for an out, does the out stand and then we put 3 up to bat or do we simply have #2 bat again and not count the pop up out as an out?
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#1 is declared out
#2's time at bat is negated
#2 returns to bat in the proper lineup position with 1 out

If no appeal is made and a pitch (legal or illegal) is thrown to the next batter (#3), #2's at bat stands and #3 becomes the legal batter
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Old Sat Sep 15, 2007, 08:23pm
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#1 is out for failing to bat in the correct order.
#2 is out on his popup.
#3 bats next, with 2 outs.
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Old Sun Sep 16, 2007, 12:05pm
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Two different twists on the question.... ASA:

SIT1: 1 is suppose to bat and 3 comes up and flies out. Defense properly appeals, so number 1 is called out for not taking his/her turn at bat and number 3's out stands. Would it then be #2's turn at bat with two outs? If #2 gets a base hit, is it then #3's turn at bat?

SIT 2: 1 is suppose to bat and 8 comes up and flies out. Defense properly appeals, so number 1 is called out for not taking his/her turn at bat and number 8's out stands. Would it then be #2's turn at bat with two outs? Who bat's after #7, two innings later?
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Old Sun Sep 16, 2007, 02:23pm
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Sit 1: #2 bats with 2 outs, followed by #3

Sit 2: #2 bats with 2 outs, and the games resumes normally
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Old Sun Sep 16, 2007, 03:11pm
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Two different twists on the question.... ASA:

SIT1: 1 is suppose to bat and 3 comes up and flies out. Defense properly appeals, so number 1 is called out for not taking his/her turn at bat and number 3's out stands. Would it then be #2's turn at bat with two outs?
Yes

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If #2 gets a base hit, is it then #3's turn at bat?
No, #3 has used their turn at bat. The next scheduled batter would be #4

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SIT 2: 1 is suppose to bat and 8 comes up and flies out. Defense properly appeals, so number 1 is called out for not taking his/her turn at bat and number 8's out stands. Would it then be #2's turn at bat with two outs?
Same as above, yes.

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Who bat's after #7, two innings later?
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Old Sun Sep 16, 2007, 03:38pm
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If #2 gets a base hit, is it then #3's turn at bat?

No, #3 has used their turn at bat. The next scheduled batter would be #4

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The next batter is the player whose name follows that of the player called out for failing to bat. Exception: If the incorrect batter is called out as a result of their time at bat, and is scheduled to be the proper batter, skip that player and the next person in the lineup will be the batter.

The way I read this, if #1 is supposed to bat and number #2 bats instead and makes an out, and the defense appeals the BOO, #1 is out, #2's out stands, and #3 would bat. The incorrect batter (#2) has been called out as a result of his time at bat and is scheduled to be the proper batter, since the lineup would continue after #1. In that case you skip #2 and go to #3.

But if, as in Situation 1, #1 is supposed to bat and #3 bats instead, then #1 is out, #3's out stands, and #2 would bat, followed by #3 again.
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Old Wed Sep 19, 2007, 01:40pm
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Based on all the different answers for different scenarios on this post I am going to assume that the answer greymule gave is the correct one for an ASA sit. We have two outs and 3 bats.....correct?
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