NSA vs. ASA

[Bassman]

OK gang, just wondering, besides the obligatory tournament rules (12, 10, 8 runs after 3d, 4th, 5th innings respectively) and 1:30 time limit, what are the rule differences between these two associations??

[hotmatt]

In NSA we wear white shirts and black hats.
NSA on deck batters can use either circle.
No jewelery in youth NSA.
No casts
No wheelchairs
Dead ball for removing helmet and out
Only catcher and 1st may wear a mitt
Pitcher cannot use a white or gray glove
NSA still mentions "above batter's head"
2 EPs, no DP/Flex, up to 11 may bat
DH in NSA
One offensive conference per inning, penalty strike on batter
0ne defensive conference per inning
Coach ejected for unreported sub(Youth)
Illegal sub, coach and player ejected. Out if at bat, do over choice if defensive play is made
No rule for one foot in the box
Ball on batter for quick pitch
Pitcher must face the first batter
Altered bat, batter and coach ejected
Cannot walk or hit batter to get to vacant spot, if so out is nullified
CR can be last out or player not in game
OBS in rundown, runner gets lead base
Double 1st base is different
Pitcher must have ball in circle for dead ball appeal
Fake tag is ejection

[Bassman]

Thanks.

[greymule]

How about BR carrying bat to 1B?

Last I did NSA, it was an out.

Also isn't there a difference in runner hit by fair batted ball while in contact with base?

[hotmatt]

Originally Posted by greymule

How about BR carrying bat to 1B?

Last I did NSA, it was an out.

Also isn't there a difference in runner hit by fair batted ball while in contact with base?

Yes, in NSA carrying the bat to first is an out. I omitted it because I've never seen it. Maybe it happens in adult leagues, but in youth ball, it's not a common call.

NSA does not address the batter preventing a pitch from entering strike zone.

**EDIT** Rule 8 Sec. 9k....When the runner is in contact with the base, and is hit by a batted fly or ground ball in fair territory(unless he/she intentionally interfers with the ball), the baserunner is not out and the ball is dead.
EFFECT- The ball is dead and all runners advance one base if forced.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Since a particular game was not indicated, let me ask this of a SP game.

At one time, there was a rule in SP that if there was a caught fly ball on the 3rd strike in foul territory, the ball is dead, the strike out recorded and, obviously, no runners could advance.

Is that still the case? Never understood the reasoning behind it, but it was rules like that which was one of the minor factors which drove my team away from NSA tournaments.

[hotmatt]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Since a particular game was not indicated, let me ask this of a SP game.

At one time, there was a rule in SP that if there was a caught fly ball on the 3rd strike in foul territory, the ball is dead, the strike out recorded and, obviously, no runners could advance.

Is that still the case? Never understood the reasoning behind it, but it was rules like that which was one of the minor factors which drove my team away from NSA tournaments.

Still the case...

Rule 9-1w...The ball is dead when a foul ball is caught and the batter has 2 strikes.

I've never really looked into of the NSA slo-pitch rules. All of the SP around here is ASA.

[greymule]

Rule 9-1w...The ball is dead when a foul ball is caught and the batter has 2 strikes.

Abel on 3B. No outs. With 2 strikes, the batter lines a ball down the 3B line and Abel takes off for home. F5 dives across the 3B line, catches the ball, and steps on 3B for the . . . oops, strike 3 and Abel returns to 3B.

Every code has its dumb rules, but you have to wonder what somebody was thinking.

[Bassman]

This coming Saturday, the major NSA WNY tourney takes place and I've got a six-pack of games all day. I'll surely be one tired puppy when I get home that night.

[hotmatt]

Originally Posted by Bassman

This coming Saturday, the major NSA WNY tourney takes place and I've got a six-pack of games all day. I'll surely be one tired puppy when I get home that night.

I did an 18u NSA National Qualifier a few weekends ago, 14 games from Friday evening thru Sunday semi-finals. My back still is sore, the fact I turned 40 last week does help either.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by hotmatt

I did an 18u NSA National Qualifier a few weekends ago, 14 games from Friday evening thru Sunday semi-finals. My back still is sore, the fact I turned 40 last week does help either.

Why would your back be sore? Carrying a partner, maybe?

[hotmatt]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Why would your back be sore? Carrying a partner, maybe?

You said it, not me!

[Bassman]

Originally Posted by hotmatt

I did an 18u NSA National Qualifier a few weekends ago, 14 games from Friday evening thru Sunday semi-finals. My back still is sore, the fact I turned 40 last week does help either.

14 Games??

[Steve M]

Originally Posted by hotmatt

I did an 18u NSA National Qualifier a few weekends ago, 14 games from Friday evening thru Sunday semi-finals. My back still is sore, the fact I turned 40 last week does help either.

I limit myself to 4 games a day. Any more than that, folks tend to go into "survival mode" and are not giving everything they have in every game.
If your back is sore or your body is stiff more than 1 day after a tournament, I suspect you have a poor plate stance.

[Bassman]

Originally Posted by Steve M

I limit myself to 4 games a day. Any more than that, folks tend to go into "survival mode" and are not giving everything they have in every game.
If your back is sore or your body is stiff more than 1 day after a tournament, I suspect you have a poor plate stance.

A couple of things working in my favor are:

1) :30 min. break in between games

2) My partner and I will switch after game three.