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Old Tue Jul 03, 2007, 09:45am
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Why in the name of (enter deity here) would a local UMPIRE association not support their umpires? OTOH, that would incite me to work more games and challenge their authority. Get those senior umpires back on the field and start dumping anyone who shows the slightest bit of disrespect or attempts to make any discussion personal. I have always stated that the worst word a player can use in a disagreement on an umpire's call is "you".

What is the association going to do?
Ive been told by a higher up umpire in our assoc (although most definately not our top dogs) .. If you dump 1 per year, thats fine, if you dump 2, youre probably the problem. Thats totally BS IMO. .. but thats what I was told.

Luckily I know that at the top levels of our Assoc, the umpires are backed and our commish IS an umpire who will dump someone.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2007, 12:40pm
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Ive been told by a higher up umpire in our assoc (although most definately not our top dogs) .. If you dump 1 per year, thats fine, if you dump 2, youre probably the problem. Thats totally BS IMO. .. but thats what I was told.

Luckily I know that at the top levels of our Assoc, the umpires are backed and our commish IS an umpire who will dump someone.
All it takes is for word of this to get out before players try using it to their advantage. They bait you to toss them, and when you do, you pay the penalty.

Total horsecrap.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2007, 01:49pm
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Ive been told by a higher up umpire in our assoc (although most definately not our top dogs) .. If you dump 1 per year, thats fine, if you dump 2, youre probably the problem. Thats totally BS IMO. ..
That is being kind. These must be extremely old-school umpires who believe earning their stripes means having skin thick enough to take anything a player or coach can put out. Of course, these are probably also the type of guys that will eat every call questioned instead of going to a partner for help when a valid reason exists.

AFAIC, these guys can stay where they are and never move. They are not good for the game or their fellow umpires.
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Old Tue Jul 03, 2007, 03:41pm
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Well....I come from a "player" background, myself.

What I was referring to earlier was a time limit set on a player to leave the area of play. I've just never heard of it.

I run about (on average) < 1 year. These guys know my reputation.....and they know I was "one of them" I played D1 baseball and competitive softball on a national level). We utilize one-man....and I hustle my *** off. It doesn't go unrecognized. I am called to task VERY LITTLE....simply because I put myself in good position.

I don't mind a discussion. I don't mind a heated discussion. I think there IS room in a discussion on an interpretation for emotion. It's invigorating.

I don't have to run many players. It's occurs less and less.....as the years roll by. Tournaments? Different story. I'm good for about 1 per tournament.
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