Infield Fly called, ball drops, fielders run

[ukumpire]

Although not ASA but ISF I am sure the same rule applies-
Infield Fly is a Live Ball - Runners can leave on the touch of the ball, so if ball is touch, or not touched or caught, then no need to tag up.

[Bluefoot]

The IFF rule does not 'assume' that the fly is caught. The batter is out, for the purpose of removing the force on the other runners on base, which would put the offense at a disadvantage. (where the def. could turn an easy double or triple play).
You won't find that IFF means the the def. caught the ball, because that's not correct.
If an IFF is caught, then any runners must tag up before advancing, just the same as any caught fly ball. But if an IFF is not caught, then runners can advance at their own risk, but aren't forced to do so, since the batter is out on the IFF and the force is removed.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Bluefoot

The IFF rule does not 'assume' that the fly is caught. The batter is out, for the purpose of removing the force on the other runners on base, which would put the offense at a disadvantage. (where the def. could turn an easy double or triple play).
You won't find that IFF means the the def. caught the ball, because that's not correct.
If an IFF is caught, then any runners must tag up before advancing, just the same as any caught fly ball. But if an IFF is not caught, then runners can advance at their own risk, but aren't forced to do so, since the batter is out on the IFF and the force is removed.

IOW, an IF is the same as any other batted fly ball, except the batter is automatically out (unless foul) to eliminate the forces.
Tagging up is a separate issue, based on first touch if caught or if not caught, just like any other batted fly ball.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by ukumpire

Although not ASA but ISF I am sure the same rule applies-
Infield Fly is a Live Ball - Runners can leave on the touch of the ball, so if ball is touch, or not touched or caught, then no need to tag up.

That's incorrect, even in your ruleset. IFF does not change the runners' responsibilities at all.

Runners must tag on a CAUGHT fly ball (IFF or no IFF - doesn't matter).

Runners need not tag at all on an UNCAUGHT fly ball (IFF or no IFF - doesn't matter).

In this sitch, there's no need for a runner to tag - the ball was not caught. (Again ... if I wasn't clear - IFF doesn't matter).

IFF affects the BATTER, and removes any forces. That's all. Don't make it harder than it is.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Was working a 7th/8th grade (in NYS, called, confusingly, Modified) game with a 2nd year ump who is the son of an ump -me PU, him BU; IFF with bases loaded, I call it, and the SS misses the catch. She throws to 3B, and my partner calls the R from 2nd out on the force...I say nothing, none of the coaches say anything..the inning ends, and I gently pull him aside to softly explain what he did...did I handle this properly, or should I have corrected that immediately? We DID go and tell the coaches of the team we possibly screwed about it later, so they could teach their kids the real rule...I was so hesitant to show up a new guy on the field...not to mention take a very rare out away...

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Was working a 7th/8th grade (in NYS, called, confusingly, Modified) game with a 2nd year ump who is the son of an ump -me PU, him BU; IFF with bases loaded, I call it, and the SS misses the catch. She throws to 3B, and my partner calls the R from 2nd out on the force...I say nothing, none of the coaches say anything..the inning ends, and I gently pull him aside to softly explain what he did...did I handle this properly, or should I have corrected that immediately? We DID go and tell the coaches of the team we possibly screwed about it later, so they could teach their kids the real rule...I was so hesitant to show up a new guy on the field...not to mention take a very rare out away...

Don't fix judgement calls... but ALWAYS fix rule misapplications.

[CecilOne]

I think infield is one word.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I think infield is one word.

Cross-thread humor! LOL!

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Don't fix judgement calls... but ALWAYS fix rule misapplications.

Especially with a new ump, who will have other partners.