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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 09:24am
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Was it a catch?

I haven't read the definition this morning......on purpose. I wanted to ask you all.

I had a very soft liner hit to 3B. He moves toward mound (that direction) and as he is attempting to catch the ball......the top of the glove and the ball are on the same plane (almost a sno-cone.....but they're level). At the same time.....he's rolling on the ground.

I'm out from behind the plate (one-man)......and I'm selling a "safe" signal with both arms with everything I have. The runner on 1st is naturally hung up.....and gets forced at 2B.....but that really had nothing to do with the call.

My contention is I saw the ball touching the ground. BUT.....it was also in his glove.

Is this one you'd just have to see? I appreciate all replies.
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 09:42am
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Sounds like you're talking about baseball (He and mound), I don't know those rules.

However, in the NFHS rules, that would be a catch. 2-9-5-f

In ASA, if the catch was made without the assistance of the ground, than it is a catch. If the ball was touching the ground while F5 was gaining possession of the ball, it was a trap - no catch. If F5 gained control before the ball touched the ground, AND F5 proved control and voluntary release, I would have a catch.
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 09:46am
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Generally, it helps to give us the ruleset involved when asking a question. It doesn't ALWAYS matter, but it does often enough.
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 10:39am
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So are you saying that the ground can't aid in F5 maintaining control?

If the ball comes into contact with the ground DURING the "catch" (or "attempt")......does this have any influence on your call?

"Mound" was used likely incorrectly (for the sticklers). I guess I should have said "Rubber".
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 11:31am
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So are you saying that the ground can't aid in F5 maintaining control?

If the ball comes into contact with the ground DURING the "catch" (or "attempt")......does this have any influence on your call?
Yes, it means it was not a catch
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"Mound" was used likely incorrectly (for the sticklers). I guess I should have said "Rubber".
How about "Pitcher's Plate"?
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 11:33am
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"Mound" was used likely incorrectly (for the sticklers). I guess I should have said "Rubber".
How about "Pitcher's Plate"?
Or, even, "circle" (if FP).
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