tag on batter/runner

[LIIRISHMAN]

Couldn't agree more with my fellow Umpires. Never 2nd guess yourself unless your asked (and nicely too) by a coach. Otherwise your authority will be 2nd guest all game and future games as well.

[shipwreck]

Did I physically see the fielder's glove make contact with the runner? No I didn't because the tag was away from me and I was shielded from the play. The play happened so fast I couldn't get a better angle although I am not sure where I could have went to get a better look even if I would have had time. The proximity of the runner and the fielder and the glove going out to make the tag or tag attempt made me believe there was a tag. I am sure some of you have been the PU before and thought maybe the batter got hit by a pitch but didn't actually see or hear it hit her but know where the ball was heading and used her reaction to getting hit to determine if she did in fact get hit. Dave

[Mountaineer]

I'd say if you didn't actually see a tag you'd have to call safe. Anything else would be speculation. We have to call what we see - even on a HBP. If I don't see it hit them, I don't award them first. If the offense questions that, I'll check with my partner. I call what I see not what I think I saw.

[NDblue]

In a situation like this, I let the runner help me make the call. 99% of the time, you can tell by body language if the tag is made. If the tag isn't made, the offended player will most certainly let you know about it.

[shipwreck]

Thanks, NDblue. That's is exactly what I was talking about. My only question was if I saw something other than an actual tag that made me think there was a tag, and I called her out, and the coach came out and asked me if I would ask my partner, should I since I already called her out? Dave

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

Thanks, NDblue. That's is exactly what I was talking about. My only question was if I saw something other than an actual tag that made me think there was a tag, and I called her out, and the coach came out and asked me if I would ask my partner, should I since I already called her out? Dave

If you had any inkling that your partner may have more information to add, absolutely.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

If you had any inkling that your partner may have more information to add, absolutely.

Mike, if you had already called her out, you would go to your partner without any prompting from the coaches?