too late to call infield fly?

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by orangeump

Why would you enforce this rule if this ball suddenly blew back? That does not make much sense.

In order to CALL the infield fly rule, you must also have ordinary effort. If the ball falls in, how is that ordinary effort? The goal here is to not give an easy double play, not give an out to the defense cause the offense popped the ball up.

I say NO infield fly and if you dont call it at first, forget it and move on with life. All this talk about it calling itself is true, I guess, but also very unpractical and hard to talk yourself out of.

Orangey

Why would you NOT call the IF when the ball gets blown back in?
This is not a rare occurence, unusual-yes.
In the original sitch, it landed right in front of the F6, I don't see how it couldn't have been caught with ordinary effort.

Way back, when I was doing spring training in baseball we even had this same type of situation occur. The rule is the same for baseball and softball here.

I have seen the ball blown back in from foul territory, I mean way foul, over the stands foul but you still have to call it.

If you don't call/enforce the IF, you are putting the defense at a disadvantage.

Enforce the rules evenly and fairly, that is our job.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Let's not lose sight of the fact that, in your judgment, the ball had to be playable with ordinary effort by an infielder. If the wind was that bad, it may be possible that nothing may have been playable with ordinary effort.

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Let's not lose sight of the fact that, in your judgment, the ball had to be playable with normal effort by an infielder. If the wind was that bad, it may be possible that nothing may have been playable with ordinary effort.

Agreed, but from the way the play is described I can't imagine it not being playable.

but then again, I have been wrong a couple of time in my life.
Usually it was when I thought I had made a mistake...........

[bluezebra]

What is the phobia these people have against posting ALL the info? How high was the ball when it was blown back?

Bob

[pbrooksmac]

Originally Posted by scottk_61

Agreed, but from the way the play is described I can't imagine it not being playable.

Playable is one thing...lots of balls are playable. Playable with ORDINARY EFFORT is an entirely different thing. ASA standard is playable with ordinary effort. If a ball is blowing back and forth, I don't think that would qualify. Either way, ASA leaves "ordinary effort" up to umpires discretion.

The last thing on the mind of the defense in this case is trying to get a cheap double play...chances are they're just trying make sure they catch the ball.