too late to call infield fly?

[shipwreck]

Read the OP. He said bases loaded and none out. Dave

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

Read the OP. He said bases loaded and none out. Dave

Somehow, only part of my post got sent and it was very incomplete at that.
So I fixed it, sorry for any confusion.

[John Robertson]

My concern with applying the infield fly rule "after the fact" is that the baserunners may have tried to advance thinking they had to because the infield fly rule was not called while the ball was in the air. It seems a little unfair if any of them were tagged out because they thought they had to run instead of running at their own risk.

[CelticNHBlue]

As Scott said, they are equally responsible for knowing the situation and have base coaches to, well, coach them.

However, in NCAA, if infield fly is not called, it was not in effect, therefor, the batter is not out.

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by John Robertson

My concern with applying the infield fly rule "after the fact" is that the baserunners may have tried to advance thinking they had to because the infield fly rule was not called while the ball was in the air. It seems a little unfair if any of them were tagged out because they thought they had to run instead of running at their own risk.

Why would this be unfair?
Would you have allowed a run to score if a runner had crossed the plate when the IF wasn't called?
Now where if the fairness.

Answer this, what is the purpose and intent of the rule?
If you can understand the purpose/intent of a rule then you can apply it correctly.
This applies to all rules and all codes.

Purpose and intent = a correct enforcement of any rule.

[orangeump]

Why would you enforce this rule if this ball suddenly blew back? That does not make much sense.

In order to CALL the infield fly rule, you must also have ordinary effort. If the ball falls in, how is that ordinary effort? The goal here is to not give an easy double play, not give an out to the defense cause the offense popped the ball up.

I say NO infield fly and if you dont call it at first, forget it and move on with life. All this talk about it calling itself is true, I guess, but also very unpractical and hard to talk yourself out of.

Orangey

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by orangeump

Why would you enforce this rule if this ball suddenly blew back? That does not make much sense.

In order to CALL the infield fly rule, you must also have ordinary effort. If the ball falls in, how is that ordinary effort? The goal here is to not give an easy double play, not give an out to the defense cause the offense popped the ball up.

I say NO infield fly and if you dont call it at first, forget it and move on with life. All this talk about it calling itself is true, I guess, but also very unpractical and hard to talk yourself out of.

Orangey

Why would you NOT call the IF when the ball gets blown back in?
This is not a rare occurence, unusual-yes.
In the original sitch, it landed right in front of the F6, I don't see how it couldn't have been caught with ordinary effort.

Way back, when I was doing spring training in baseball we even had this same type of situation occur. The rule is the same for baseball and softball here.

I have seen the ball blown back in from foul territory, I mean way foul, over the stands foul but you still have to call it.

If you don't call/enforce the IF, you are putting the defense at a disadvantage.

Enforce the rules evenly and fairly, that is our job.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Let's not lose sight of the fact that, in your judgment, the ball had to be playable with ordinary effort by an infielder. If the wind was that bad, it may be possible that nothing may have been playable with ordinary effort.