NW vs. Bama and Plate Umpire!

[Dakota]

I am making a general point. You are saying "It's OK -it's Diane. She won't mind."

We're not even in the same book, let alone on the same page.

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I am making a general point. You are saying "It's OK -it's Diane. She won't mind."

We're not even in the same book, let alone on the same page.

You are correct, we are definately not in the same book.

This is kinda like booger picking, if you go looking for trouble, it will find you.

[orangeump]

ScottK, was it an NSA tournament you worked with her?

My next point is going to be that the reason I shared this story isnt so that people stop and go "oh what a jerk for saying that about her." it is because everyone sees these games and these calls and continues to post about them (which is great). But some people continue to say "well, these guys are on ESPN and they are great umpires and great people...blah blah blah."

Is what she told that UIC a great statement? NO is it a statement that someone trying to help maybe less experienced umpires? NO

You can draw your conclusions about her umpiring ability, I have my own already made. You can also draw your own conclusions about what type of umpire makes that comment that she/he is above a certain level.

Thanks for your time and ScottK, please feel free to PM me if you dont want to answer my question in public

[tcannizzo]

I do not know any of the principals in this either, but apparently this particular umpire has no problem in making her opinions known that she is above the game and enjoys flaunting her elitist attitude.

This not mud-slinging in my book. It is merely helping her spread her own chosen words. The fact that her attititude is outrageous is what seems most bothersome. Even to the extent that just echoing her own words, made it sound like mud-slinging.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

Even to the extent that just echoing her own words, made it sound like mud-slinging.

Which was, of course, why you posted it, IMO.

AFAIK, there is no requirment that says for an umpire's skill and quality to be such that she receives the assignment to the WCWS that she also be an ambassador of good will for 10U ASA.

The comment about her "attitude" toward JO ball, especially younger JO ball, means I would not want to work a 12U tournament with her, but it says absolutely nothing about her calls in the WCWS. It is merely an attempt to disparage her reputation. Both you and orangeump said as much in your followup comments. Whether or not she would wear such an attempt as a badge of honor is beside the more general point.

And, whether or not that is "fair game" for this board?... certainly that kind of stuff is common on the baseball board. But, at least be honest enough with yourselves to admit why you did it.

[orangeump]

to repeat what I have said; everyone is quick to say "oh there are ten replays" or "oh come on, these are the best umpires in all the land!"

well, I am saying; oh come on, listen to her attitude, do you really care anymore if she boots ten calls in a row?

I for one couldnt care less if she blows a big call at a big moment. I dont know if she is working the finals (who is?) but if she misses a bunch of big calls, so be it. She doesnt deserve everyone's respect for simply working a WCWS, she is a scummy person who thinks she is above not only working that level of play, but apparently working with umpires who can learn from her and vice versa at that level of play.

Thanks!

[tcannizzo]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Which was, of course, why you posted it, IMO.

AFAIK, there is no requirment that says for an umpire's skill and quality to be such that she receives the assignment to the WCWS that she also be an ambassador of good will for 10U ASA.

She is proof of that.

Originally Posted by Dakota

The comment about her "attitude" toward JO ball, especially younger JO ball, means I would not want to work a 12U tournament with her, but it says absolutely nothing about her calls in the WCWS. It is merely an attempt to disparage her reputation. Both you and orangeump said as much in your followup comments. Whether or not she would wear such an attempt as a badge of honor is beside the more general point.

I am confused. You admit that you would not want to work with her because of her outrageous and outspoken opinions, but don't include yourself in the list of those who make disparaging and damaging comments to her reputation?

Originally Posted by Dakota

And, whether or not that is "fair game" for this board?... certainly that kind of stuff is common on the baseball board. But, at least be honest enough with yourselves to admit why you did it.

I would have to honestly say that my original post about her calls had to do with the fact that I do not know her, and did not know the rules of this board.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

I am confused. You admit that you would not want to work with her because of her outrageous and outspoken opinions...

No, I didn't write that. I wrote that the comment made about her (if true). I made no comment one way or the other about her as a person, since I know nothing about that.

I've worked lower level tournaments before with umpires who did not want to be there. It makes for a long day at the ball park.

Is she such a person? Beats me.

Does the question have anything to do with her calling of the WCWS? No.

Why was it brought up? Jealousy? That would be my guess. Cheap shot artists abound on internet boards.

Did it affect my opinion? Sure it did... my opinion of the person who posted it.