NW vs. Bama and Plate Umpire!

[Dakota]

I don't know any of the principals involed here, but there is a huge difference between swapping yarns in the umpire tent and posting names attached to those yarns on a public internet discussion board.

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I don't know any of the principals involed here, but there is a huge difference between swapping yarns in the umpire tent and posting names attached to those yarns on a public internet discussion board.

Not really,
The tent is an open foum just as this is, I have yet to work a tournament anywhere where there wasn't a notable "guest" contingtent. Some people I knew and some I didn't.

I actually laughed when I read the orignal comment about Diane, because I can hear her now, "that's right!"

I had a lot of fun with her at one tournament, a national championship no less, where she did her I am an SEC umpire thing and the UIC said, "This isn't the SEC and you are no better than (pointed to another umpire who had only ever worked one National and no college before), if you want to work this tournament then wear our uniform. We had a great time and Diane worked the championship game with the rest of the 4 ump crew.

Me thinks you doth protest too much.

[Dakota]

I am making a general point. You are saying "It's OK -it's Diane. She won't mind."

We're not even in the same book, let alone on the same page.

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I am making a general point. You are saying "It's OK -it's Diane. She won't mind."

We're not even in the same book, let alone on the same page.

You are correct, we are definately not in the same book.

This is kinda like booger picking, if you go looking for trouble, it will find you.

[orangeump]

ScottK, was it an NSA tournament you worked with her?

My next point is going to be that the reason I shared this story isnt so that people stop and go "oh what a jerk for saying that about her." it is because everyone sees these games and these calls and continues to post about them (which is great). But some people continue to say "well, these guys are on ESPN and they are great umpires and great people...blah blah blah."

Is what she told that UIC a great statement? NO is it a statement that someone trying to help maybe less experienced umpires? NO

You can draw your conclusions about her umpiring ability, I have my own already made. You can also draw your own conclusions about what type of umpire makes that comment that she/he is above a certain level.

Thanks for your time and ScottK, please feel free to PM me if you dont want to answer my question in public

[tcannizzo]

I do not know any of the principals in this either, but apparently this particular umpire has no problem in making her opinions known that she is above the game and enjoys flaunting her elitist attitude.

This not mud-slinging in my book. It is merely helping her spread her own chosen words. The fact that her attititude is outrageous is what seems most bothersome. Even to the extent that just echoing her own words, made it sound like mud-slinging.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

Even to the extent that just echoing her own words, made it sound like mud-slinging.

Which was, of course, why you posted it, IMO.

AFAIK, there is no requirment that says for an umpire's skill and quality to be such that she receives the assignment to the WCWS that she also be an ambassador of good will for 10U ASA.

The comment about her "attitude" toward JO ball, especially younger JO ball, means I would not want to work a 12U tournament with her, but it says absolutely nothing about her calls in the WCWS. It is merely an attempt to disparage her reputation. Both you and orangeump said as much in your followup comments. Whether or not she would wear such an attempt as a badge of honor is beside the more general point.

And, whether or not that is "fair game" for this board?... certainly that kind of stuff is common on the baseball board. But, at least be honest enough with yourselves to admit why you did it.