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Old Wed May 31, 2006, 11:04am
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except that an out for BOO supersedes an out made by the batter-runner. All other outs gained on the play stand.
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Old Wed May 31, 2006, 11:23am
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except that an out for BOO supersedes an out made by the batter-runner. All other outs gained on the play stand.
Not sure what you are saying here...could you reference a rule either FED or ASA?
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Old Wed May 31, 2006, 11:46am
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Not sure what you are saying here...could you reference a rule either FED or ASA?
My emphasis:

FED rule 7.1.2 EFFECT: The umpire shall declare the batter who should have batted out (not the improper batter). Any other outs on the play stand. All runners who were not declared out must return to the base occupied at the time of the pitch....
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Old Wed May 31, 2006, 01:23pm
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except that an out for BOO supersedes an out made by the batter-runner. All other outs gained on the play stand.
Not in ASA.
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Old Wed May 31, 2006, 01:35pm
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Are Fed rules the same thing as NFHS? I can only find in NFHS rules that the batter who should have batted is out (under proper appeal) and the imporper batter's time at bat is negated and she is returned to the dugout/bench area. So, I am assuming the improper batter's at bat whether out or a hit is cancelled and the batter who should have batted is out?
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Old Wed May 31, 2006, 01:40pm
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Are Fed rules the same thing as NFHS?
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I can only find in NFHS rules that the batter who should have batted is out (under proper appeal) and the improper batter's time at bat is negated and she is returned to the dugout/bench area. So, I am assuming the improper batter's at bat whether out or a hit is cancelled and the batter who should have batted is out?
Provided a pitch, legal or illegal, has not been delivered to the next batter
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Old Wed May 31, 2006, 02:10pm
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You guys sure have this all twisted around the axle.

Speaking ASA and NFHS (aka Fed; aka high school).

In BOO, for a penalty to be applied, the appeal must be made after the improper batter has completed her turn at bat but before a pitch to the next batter.

If properly appealed, no advance of any runner due to the improper batter becoming a BR will stand. The proper batter is declared out. All outs recorded on other runners will stand. ("other runners" means other than the improper batter)

Speaking ASA: Any out recorded on the improper batter during the play will stand.

Speaking NFHS: Any out recorded on the improper batter during the play does not stand.
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