batting out of order?

[blu_bawls]

If dicovered before the next pitch (legal or illegal), the out would be recorded to the proper batter/runner and the batter immediately following the proper batter would be required to come to the plate for her turn.

[fan]

So, the out would not be credited to the improper batter who already got out. So, only one out would come of this even though the improper batter already got out and the appeal was made before the next pitch. The out would be credited to the proper batter who failed to bat in his/her spot?

[LMan]

Correct. The proper batter is called out, and the improper batter removed from the bases. The next batter is the one that follows the called-out batter's position in the batting order.

[blu_bawls]

Yes. The correct batter (CB) would say to the improper batter (IB) as she returns to the dug out, "Thanks for hitting for me. I wish I would have been safe."

Then the next batter who follows the CB in the line up would swing away.

[tcblue13]

Originally Posted by LMan

Correct. The proper batter is called out, and the improper batter removed from the bases. The next batter is the one that follows the called-out batter's position in the batting order.

Even if it is the improper batter

[CecilOne]

Doesn't the out stand in ASA?

[LMan]

Originally Posted by tcblue13

Even if it is the improper batter

Yes. Its entirely possible to remove the improper batter from a base and put him/her at bat to try again.

[tcblue13]

Originally Posted by LMan

Yes. Its entirely possible to remove the improper batter from a base and put him/her at bat to try again.

That's the point I was making

[justmom]

Originally Posted by fan

So, the out would not be credited to the improper batter who already got out. So, only one out would come of this even though the improper batter already got out and the appeal was made before the next pitch. The out would be credited to the proper batter who failed to bat in his/her spot?

FED rule 7.1.2 effect: The umpire shall declare the batter who should have batted out (not the improper batter). Any other outs on the play stand.

[LMan]

except that an out for BOO supersedes an out made by the batter-runner. All other outs gained on the play stand.

[justmom]

Originally Posted by LMan

except that an out for BOO supersedes an out made by the batter-runner. All other outs gained on the play stand.

Not sure what you are saying here...could you reference a rule either FED or ASA?

[LMan]

Originally Posted by justmom

Not sure what you are saying here...could you reference a rule either FED or ASA?

My emphasis:

FED rule 7.1.2 EFFECT: The umpire shall declare the batter who should have batted out (not the improper batter). Any other outs on the play stand. All runners who were not declared out must return to the base occupied at the time of the pitch....

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by LMan

except that an out for BOO supersedes an out made by the batter-runner. All other outs gained on the play stand.

Not in ASA.

[fan]

Are Fed rules the same thing as NFHS? I can only find in NFHS rules that the batter who should have batted is out (under proper appeal) and the imporper batter's time at bat is negated and she is returned to the dugout/bench area. So, I am assuming the improper batter's at bat whether out or a hit is cancelled and the batter who should have batted is out?

[tcblue13]

Originally Posted by fan

Are Fed rules the same thing as NFHS?

Yes

I can only find in NFHS rules that the batter who should have batted is out (under proper appeal) and the improper batter's time at bat is negated and she is returned to the dugout/bench area. So, I am assuming the improper batter's at bat whether out or a hit is cancelled and the batter who should have batted is out?

Provided a pitch, legal or illegal, has not been delivered to the next batter