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Thanks. It is still there in 2006, also without a rule reference. Odd ruling, IMO. Defense's best option is to just do nothing. No risk of overthrow or other error.
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Tom,
Yes, I saw the response, but do not understand how R2 would be in voilaton of LBR if R2 started to return to 1st. Here is my thinking about the situation. With the situation as described, R2 is liable to be put out if tagged, because R2 is not legally occupying a base. Since R2 is not legally occupying a base, R2 is technically off base between 1st and 2nd when the ball is received by F1 in the circle and LBR goes into effect. Why would the LBR not be applied as if R2 is off base between 1st and 2nd in this situation? Thanks GaryB |
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The LBR does not speak to a legally occupied base. It only talks about "a base".
So, while both runners are not entitled to remain on the same base, neither runner will be in violation of the LBR so long as they both remain there. But, if F1 has the ball in the circle, and the ball is live, and F1 is not making a play, then either runner would be out if either left the base.
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Found that ASA Casebook play -
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R1 on 2B, R2 on 1B when B3 hits the ball to F6. R1 holds up as R2 advances to 2B. F6 throws out B3 as both R1 and R2 stand on 2B. F6 throws out B3 as both R1 and R2 stand on 2B. The defense does not notice and the ball is thrown to the pitcher. No further play is apparent. Ruling: The umpire should call "time." The runners should be awarded the base they would legally occupy. R2 is returned to 1B. (10-8H; 10-1) |
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