Both teams enter dugouts, 2 out, 1 on

[bobbrix]

Softball Canada is the most-recent term, I suppose.

CSA was (is?) Canadian Softball Association, similarly with CASA as Canadian Amateur Softball Assocation.

We have a short season (snuck in a game yesterday, too cold today) so you don't hear much from us September-April or so.

Regards.

[SC Ump]

I hope I would have had the presents of mind to call time when I saw that both teams had the out count wrong and get everyone reset. If I didn't, I would probably just put everyone back where they were since my lack of action put one team or the other in jeopordy.

[mcrowder]

SC - what lack of action? At most, you should be signalling 2 outs and watching the action. You start directing traffic or calling time during live ball for no apparent reason, and you run into trouble. I, too, have an out when she enters the dugout.

And even if the umpires didn't call her out, she DEFINITELY can't leave the dugout to start running bases.

[LIIRISHMAN]

DEpending on the ages and temperment of the teams you could just put everyone back on the field. If it's older kids or adults then the runner is ruled out once she's enters DB area

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by LIIRISHMAN

DEpending on the ages and temperment of the teams you could just put everyone back on the field. If it's older kids or adults then the runner is ruled out once she's enters DB area

Right, at 8&U in-house, reset.

[SC Ump]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

SC - what lack of action?...

And even if the umpires didn't call her out, she DEFINITELY can't leave the dugout to start running bases.

In the original post, it was noted, "The ump was wondering if he had the outs wrong at two but had still not made any call after the strike out." To me, this is lack of action due to the ump not having their head in the game.

If I have two outs and both teams start abandoning their postions, I would first state very loudly, "TWO OUTS." After everyone was set, I would call time to check with the score keepers to ensure how many outs there are.

Leaving the dugout to start running the bases? I agree, that definitely would not happen.

[bobbrix]

Having reviewed this with others, I believe mcrowder has it right. The ball was live, so the ump can't start doing the coahes' jobs.

So, of the two items at hand, he didn't react too quickly and he let things unfold (which was right) but he should have called the out when the runner returned from the dugout.

p.s.

We don't use "Dixie" here, can't recall what that is (although I know one of you told me a couple years ago ... sorry to whoever that was).

These were 14-15 year olds.

Have a great day.

bobbrix

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by bobbrix

We don't use "Dixie" here, can't recall what that is (although I know one of you told me a couple years ago ... sorry to whoever that was).

Dixie is yet another association that provides rulesets for baseball and softball primarily in the Southern US. Very similar rules to Little League, from what I can tell.