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Fri Apr 28, 2006, 01:12pm
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Cute situation from another board
I've adjusted (added detail) a bit, but I thought this was at least worth discussing from a mechanics perspective.
2 umpire crew. R1 on 2B. R2 on 1B. B3 hits a high, long fly beyond 1B in foul territory near the fence. F9 running over to try to make the catch. R1 takes a few steps off 2B and waits. R2 runs full speed and passes R1. Batted ball drops for a foul. OK... describe what BU does about R2 passing R1 during the live ball (before the ball becomes foul). If R2 is called out, what happens next after the ball is foul?
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Fri Apr 28, 2006, 01:35pm
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Did BU go out or not?
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Fri Apr 28, 2006, 01:41pm
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R2 is called out during the live ball, since we don't know if ball will be fair/foul. If foul, change the call. No different in my mind than 'infield fly if fair'. If fair, batter is out, if foul, nothing but a foul ball. If, in OP, ball is fair, runner is still out. If foul, just a foul.
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Mark NFHS, NCAA, NAFA "If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?" Anton Chigurh - "No Country for Old Men" Last edited by MNBlue; Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 01:48pm.
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Fri Apr 28, 2006, 02:30pm
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"The runner is out when the runner physically passes a preceding runner before that runner has been put out." NFHS 8-6-4; ASA (2005) 8-7-D.
Why would the out be voided because the ball later became dead as a result of becoming an uncaught foul?
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Fri Apr 28, 2006, 02:34pm
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Fri Apr 28, 2006, 02:42pm
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Nonsense. He's out if he passes when the ball is live. Period. Whether it becomes foul or not after that does not undo the out. He's out.
Not a fun one to sell, for sure ... but this is the right call.
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Fri Apr 28, 2006, 03:54pm
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Sounds like the ball was in play to me.
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