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Tue Apr 04, 2006, 10:37pm
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NF fast pitch. Bases loaded 1 out. Batter/Runner hits a ground ball to pitcher.
Pitcher goes to catcher at home for force out. Catcher who is completely behind home plate then throws to first to get the B/R. The throw hits the B/R in the back about 1 step from 1st base. Home plate umpire calls the B/R out for being inside the 3 foot lane. Is this the correct call? 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 07:30am
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If you meant "inside" as in on the inner side of the line into fair territory, then yes, this is the right call. If you meant "inside" as in within the 3 foot lane that he is required to be in, then obviously and emphatically no. Barring intent, BR cannot be called out for interference if he is INSIDE (ie between the fair/foul line and the outside line) the 3-foot lane.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 08:09am
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If the question is whether the catcher being in foul ground affects the rule, it does not. If the BR was inside the lane and the ump called it based on the BR having to get out of the way of a foul ground throw by moving out of the lane, that is wrong. The only exception to the lane rule is avoiding a fielder fielding a batted ball.
The only "rule" (non-NFHS) affected by the source of the throw is the double-base.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 10:04am
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If no, then HTBT, but this sounds like it might have been a questionable call.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 10:47am
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 10:57am
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If the BR is running with her feet on the line she is considered within the 3' lane. If her whole foot is outside the line she is outside the lane. It is the same as making contact with the ball when she is batting. If she is making contact with the line she is in. Dave
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 11:40am
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Is a batter runner considered to be in the lane if she's running with one foot in the lane and ther other foot on the fair side of the baseline between 1rst and 2nd???? In other words does the runner have to be completely in the lane?
If a thrown ball hits the part of the BR's body outside the running lane and it keeps the defender from catching the ball, it's INT.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 12:50pm
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You're implying here that the ball has to hit BR. We both know that's not true, and your statement doesn't help the situation where the ball does not strike the BR, and BR is running along the line as described. In the case described, if BR is running with one foot in, and one foot out, and she interferes with the fielder's opportunity to catch a thrown ball, I have interference.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 02:25pm
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Mike does answer the question .
Even though the BR may have both feet in the lane , if shoulders or arms fling about and are inside the diamond the there is interference . I presume we have a typo error base line between 1st and 2nd . If not there is no intereference here unless intereference is intentional . The R can run either side of the base line .
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 02:45pm
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No, he didn't.
The question was... "Is the runner considered in the lane if..." His answer was "If a runner is hit by a ball.... ", which was not what was being asked. It was only a partial possibility - a subset of the question.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 03:17pm
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No, I made a true statement based on the OP and the thread.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006, 06:09pm
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Sorry about the typo, as I meant between HP and 1rst. So as I"m understanding this if any part of the runners body "IS NOT" within the confines of the running lane, and said person gets hit with the ball on said part of the body that insn't within the confines of the running lane and this action prevents the defender from fielding the throw then we call the batter-runner out???
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Thu Apr 06, 2006, 07:47am
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I guess the confusion, Mike, was that you quoted someone else's question, which made me think you were answering that person's question. My bad.
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Thu Apr 06, 2006, 08:54am
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Can we get a restatement of the OP with clarification of "inside the 3 foot lane"?
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