Unfortunately, Another Bad Decision

[whiskers_ump]

Unfortunately, Another Bad Decision

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This happen recently in a NFHS game.

Tied game, R1 on 2B, R2 on 1B, 2 Outs. Batter hits a shot out of the park. However, before any runners cross HP, the batter is greeted by most of her team between 1B and 2B, including R1 and R2. Celebration ends, and runners all continue. Defensive coach appeals to umpre (single, partner failed to show), that someone has to be called out on the play. Umpire states that he is not calling anything. Runs score, offended team eventually loses in ITB.

How would you have handled this.

Having seen the play, I know what I would have had, but without having seen it, what would have called, if anything?


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[baldgriff]

Originally Posted by whiskers_ump

Unfortunately, Another Bad Decision

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This happen recently in a NFHS game.

Tied game, R1 on 2B, R2 on 1B, 2 Outs. Batter hits a shot out of the park. However, before any runners cross HP, the batter is greeted by most of her team between 1B and 2B, including R1 and R2. Celebration ends, and runners all continue. Defensive coach appeals to umpre (single, partner failed to show), that someone has to be called out on the play. Umpire states that he is not calling anything. Runs score, offended team eventually loses in ITB.

How would you have handled this.

Having seen the play, I know what I would have had, but without having seen it, what would have called, if anything?

Well here are my thoughts. Prefacing this by saying I dont do any fastpitch at all.
This is a dead ball situation so while I dont like the idea of teammates running on the field, they are not really aiding the runner or interfering with a play. Its poor sportsmanship to be sure, but I dont believe I have an out here.

Now the question I have at this point is did the batter complete her circuit around the bases and complete the HR by touching all of the bases. Is she required too? (I ask this because the Mens leagues I umpire at a minimum only require touching first on a HR - keeps the game moving)

If she did not touch all bases and is required to, I suppose an appeal for missing a base would be in order.

[Skahtboi]

My question is, what reason did the coach feel that someone needed to be called out? Was it because a runner missed a base? Was it because someone other than a suceeding runner helped the runner? What was the reasoning here?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by whiskers_ump

Unfortunately, Another Bad Decision

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This happen recently in a NFHS game.

Tied game, R1 on 2B, R2 on 1B, 2 Outs. Batter hits a shot out of the park. However, before any runners cross HP, the batter is greeted by most of her team between 1B and 2B, including R1 and R2. Celebration ends, and runners all continue. Defensive coach appeals to umpre (single, partner failed to show), that someone has to be called out on the play. Umpire states that he is not calling anything. Runs score, offended team eventually loses in ITB.

How would you have handled this.

Having seen the play, I know what I would have had, but without having seen it, what would have called, if anything?

Between 1B & 2B? "Coach, get those players off the field, NOW!"

However, unless someone other than another R physically aided the player, I would like to know why the defense thought someone needs to be called out, which player is should be and why?

If the coach cannot tell you that, tell'em to sit down.

[mcrowder]

Did coach want someone out for passing? (And did anyone actually pass --- FULLY pass --- the runner ahead of her?)

Did coach want R1 out for going backward? I don't think that can be supported either, as it was not done "to make a travesty of the game".

Can't see an out here unless someone passes. I CAN see an ejection, but it wouldn't matter for THIS game.

[Dakota]

Passing would have been my first guess as what Glen saw, 'cause otherwise, I don't see any out here, either.

[baldgriff]

OK - what actually happened???????

[SC Ump]

Originally Posted by whiskers_ump

coach appeals... that someone has to be called out

What a whining statement from the coach. I can envision the hands on the hips.

[whiskers_ump]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Passing would have been my first guess as what Glen saw, 'cause otherwise, I don't see any out here, either.

Passing is exactly what happened. R2 even crossed the plate before R1.
R1 stayed close with the girl that hit the homer. It was way to obvious.
I would have had to call it.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by whiskers_ump

Passing is exactly what happened. R2 even crossed the plate before R1.
R1 stayed close with the girl that hit the homer. It was way to obvious.
I would have had to call it.

I agree, that's something that cannot be overlooked and, IMO, pretty damn stupid of the runners, don't care what age.