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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 08:41am
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B][/QUOTE]You haven't quite caught on to the familiar ribbing that goes on here. It's not hostility (well, at least not most of the time). [/B][/QUOTE]
Come on..that was a rib/dig in itself. Your just not used to my flavor. No harm, no foul, play ball.

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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 01:12pm
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I bet some of you guys sell the hell out of your calls cuz I feel alot of pent up hostility. God save the sand-lot lingo. ('pickle', for the idiots)
Well, I've been playing ball since 1958. I've been involved with Little League, Kiwanis League, Babe Ruth, high school, semi-pro as either a player or umpire. Then I moved over to softball and have been involved at all levels, male, female and co-rec as either a player or umpire and NEVER heard the term "pickle" used to describe a rundown until I began visiting these boards.

I guess it all depends on where you are standing on this earth as to how "smart" you seem to be at any given time.

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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 01:29pm
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Maybe its a southern thing. Where I grew up, NC, thats all I ever heard it described as. Here in SC, where I live now, same thing.
Ive watched alot of pro baseball and hear the term used as frequent as there is a rundown.
Anyway, not trying to appear to be smarter, just sharing the luv of the game.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 01:33pm
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I've heard it called a pickle probably more often than I've heard it called a rundown.

PS - Can't find rundown in the book either...
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 01:46pm
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Where I grew up, NC....
Where about? I started life as a TarHeel. Durham to be exact.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 01:53pm
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PS - Can't find rundown in the book either...
POE - Obstruction.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 02:10pm
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Where I grew up, NC....
Where about? I started life as a TarHeel. Durham to be exact.
Little place called Albemarle, east of Charlotte.
Now, a little place called Rock Hill, SC; hence, rhsc as username..for the detailed impaired.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 02:57pm
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Good catch, Dakota.

I guess we now have official confirmation that there's no such thing as a pickle unless you go to the concession stand.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 03:16pm
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Good catch, Dakota.

I guess we now have official confirmation that there's no such thing as a pickle unless you go to the concession stand.
I guess that means we gotta go to Wal-Mart for a 'mirror,' too, then. (from another thread)


[Edited by rhsc on Mar 30th, 2005 at 03:42 PM]
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 03:27pm
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Hey Pickle pokers!

To the topic at hand... perceived interference by BR going to 1st (where else can she go - right?).

I think a couple of you, quietly, gave the answer that I would give.

Some of you cast doubts about calling interference in situation D where the ball hits the BR but the umpire thinks that maybe, perhaps, possibly the throw would not have reached F4 in flight. (in time?) Well I'm sorry folks but scenario D is the only one for which I would definitely call interference.

Scenario D is the only one with actual evidence that the BR interfered. All the others are a guess... I wouldn't say judgement. I would definitely say guess. I'm not there to guess. Catcher, prove to me that the BR interfered or she is safe.

Scenario A - poor throw - bad placement.
Scenario B - again, poor throw.
Scenario C - no throw, poor choice.
Scenario D - flight has nothing to do with it. Scoop it out of the dirt. Ball hit BR. BR was not in a legal location. "Time. Dead ball. BR is out." Other runners return to last base touched at time of interference.
Scenario E - poor throw. How do I know it wasn't going to be too late on the first pump.

I'm thinking that you guys need to eat less pickles.
Just funnin'
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 04:54pm
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Re: Hey Pickle pokers!

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I'm thinking that you guys need to eat less pickles.
Just funnin'
Well, since your, uh, I mean yore, aw, heck - YER funnin' - that would be fewer pickles!
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 05:20pm
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Cali here.. Pickle is well used term and understood by all to mean a rundown. Real suprised at some whove been around the block saying they never heard that term.. almost unbelievable.
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Old Wed Mar 30, 2005, 10:28pm
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Merriam – Webster
Pickel: a difficult situation : Plight


The American Heritage ® Dictionary
Pickle: A disagreeable or troublesome situation; a plight
Baseball. A rundown


Roget's II: The New Thesaurus
A difficult, often embarrassing situation or condition:
box1, corner, deep water, difficulty, dilemma, Dutch, fix, hole, hot spot, hot water, jam, plight1, predicament, quagmire, scrape, soup, trouble.



Seems like most of these words aptly describe a runner hung up in no manÂ’s land; being chased to and fro, every twist and turn she confronts evil intent of getting rid of her.

WMB
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Old Thu Mar 31, 2005, 03:43am
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It looks like you and me are the only ones to agree .

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Old Thu Mar 31, 2005, 08:48am
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Merriam – Webster
Pickel: a difficult situation : Plight


The American Heritage ® Dictionary
Pickle: A disagreeable or troublesome situation; a plight
Baseball. A rundown


Roget's II: The New Thesaurus
A difficult, often embarrassing situation or condition:
box1, corner, deep water, difficulty, dilemma, Dutch, fix, hole, hot spot, hot water, jam, plight1, predicament, quagmire, scrape, soup, trouble.



Seems like most of these words aptly describe a runner hung up in no manÂ’s land; being chased to and fro, every twist and turn she confronts evil intent of getting rid of her.

WMB
J.H.C. I wasn't saying it wasn't a term to be used, I just said in my part of the world it isn't used as a description for a rundown in a softball game.

Hell, when a manager has no sub for the player that just injured themselves, they, too, are in a pickle.

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