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Old Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:07am
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Originally Posted by Manny A View Post
Then again, I've always felt that an illegal pitch violation when a pitcher steps on the plate with her hands already together should be an immediate dead ball as well. Why wait for her to then separate her hands, look in for the signal, check her arm band, look back at her catcher, put her hands together, take a deep breath...
I've been taught to call the IP when you see it. In the case of the pitcher stepping onto the PP with hands together, I will call "Illegal Pitch!" as I stand up from my set position and move off to the side opposite the batter.

I cannot recall a time where the pitcher actually delivered a pitch.

So yes, it's still a DDB, but in the case you cited, very rarely might a pitch be thrown.
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Old Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:03pm
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Originally Posted by Manny A View Post
It's no different than umpire interference on a catcher's throw. Let it play out, and see if the defense is still able to retire the runner. If they do, why take that out away from them?
I disagree. I have the philosophy that INT by game participants should be penalized when it happens, and INT by game officials should be allowed to play out.

If you have umpire INT, it's literally no player's fault, so let 'em play and see what happens.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:57pm
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Originally Posted by teebob21 View Post
This is also a potential out in NCAA - 11.20.1 -- but it's a delayed dead ball.

I assume this means we let the pitcher throw one pitch, then give the defense the option of the batter is out; or the result of the play.

I know what some people on the board think about stupid NCAA rules, and I tend to disagree, but I'll be damned if this isn't a stupid NCAA rule IMO.
So what if the PU signals DDB and then the pitcher throws an IP which the batter hits into a double play?

Or maybe the pitcher just doesn't pitch the ball in the allotted time?

Seems keeping the ball live could open up a lot of different issues. Not exactly keen on them referring to it as "interference" as it isn't even close to it.
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