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Andy and I had a very similar play this spring. I got straight-lined. I made a safe call based on what I could see. When the coach asked some very good questions, we got together and got it right. Andy had 100%-certainty information for me, and I was nowhere near 100% on my call. I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of Steve's observations.
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This play is not an issue of cutting distance; the primary goal should by nothing but creating a better angle; move toward 3rd with that throw, get as close to 45 to the throw as possible. Move parallel toward 2nd if throw to 2nd or 1st, with the same goal in mind, a better angle (45 to 2nd, ANY angle to the throw to 1st. I don't recall an F6 making a delay on this force, rather than an immediate play; again, I expect her to let the ball take her to her best play. Never moving in at all unless F6 is charging hard to a dribbler, and her only play is to 1st; even then still moving left behind her for a better angle.
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Yes, I was thinking of a tag play. I did not read and process the OP correctly. I should not Internet late at night.
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LOL!! My kids think, that at my age, I should not be Interneting at all at anytime! Or at least not without adult supervision! MTD, Sr.
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The current thinking (at least locally) is our starting position is off of the left shoulder of F6 unless she's squeezing middle. I agree with everything else you wrote. We get in trouble by anticipating the play and committing early.
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Yes, you are correct; misstated by me. With 1st and 2nd, I'm only off the right shoulder if I'm suspecting straight steal or fake bunt and steal sequence.
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I (PU) had a great angle and look at the play right up the third baseline. I saw where Teebob was when he made the call and cringed a bit internally, when he came to me and asked the proper question, I gave him what I had. As a side note, he also got a very good opportunity to work on his "interacting with the coach" skills...... ![]()
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