Getting it right
Is this appropriate and acceptable?
Runners on 1st & 2nd. Batted ball to SS, who throws to 3rd for force out. BU calls runner out, then discusses with PU, checking for better angle. PU, who was half way to 3rd for the play, says the runner was safe. BU changes call to safe. Ignore whether BU should not have called out if not sure. :rolleyes: |
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I am still trying how the BU did not have the best look at this play. Bang the Runner out and move on. MTD, Sr. |
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I have a few differing thoughts about this play.
1) There is no reason for PU to be halfway to 3rd. PU has exactly one primary responsibility on this play; the pulled foot at 1st, a play that never happened. 2) AFTER a play at 1st, then PU would move up for a follow-up play at 3rd. 3) Since neither #1 nor #2 actually happened, PU moving up the line pretty much generates the "go for help, PU had a better view" complaint. 4) No way should BU be straight lined here. Initial play, really? 5) BUT, if BU truly believes he/she didn't have a good look, then, do the right thing(s); yes, ask PU what PU saw, and if PU is absolutely sure the call needs to be changes, then BU should change the call. 6) Summary; if you do get together on a call, get it RIGHT! If you are prepared to stay with your call, no matter what, do not make your partner complicit in the wrong call by pretending to get that input. |
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Andy and I had a very similar play this spring. I got straight-lined. I made a safe call based on what I could see. When the coach asked some very good questions, we got together and got it right. Andy had 100%-certainty information for me, and I was nowhere near 100% on my call. I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of Steve's observations. |
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There no excuse for the BU to be straight lined on a force play at 3B when the throw is going F6 to F5. If the BU was straight lined then he was out of position at the TOP. MTD, Sr. |
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This play is not an issue of cutting distance; the primary goal should by nothing but creating a better angle; move toward 3rd with that throw, get as close to 45 to the throw as possible. Move parallel toward 2nd if throw to 2nd or 1st, with the same goal in mind, a better angle (45 to 2nd, ANY angle to the throw to 1st. I don't recall an F6 making a delay on this force, rather than an immediate play; again, I expect her to let the ball take her to her best play. Never moving in at all unless F6 is charging hard to a dribbler, and her only play is to 1st; even then still moving left behind her for a better angle. |
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I (PU) had a great angle and look at the play right up the third baseline. I saw where Teebob was when he made the call and cringed a bit internally, when he came to me and asked the proper question, I gave him what I had. As a side note, he also got a very good opportunity to work on his "interacting with the coach" skills......:) |
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LOL!! My kids think, that at my age, I should not be Interneting at all at anytime! Or at least not without adult supervision! MTD, Sr. |
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