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Old Tue Aug 08, 2017, 09:35pm
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4) As others have said, the minimum appropriate response would be to suspend the 6 players. If you define tipping pitch location as unsportsmanlike and deserving ejection of both player and head coach, there is absolutely NO WAY to ignore what these 6 kids did. In what world does that (6 suspended players) not result in a forfeit?

5) Since the photo was (reportedly) prior to the semifinal game, I see it reasonable to (at least consider) postdating the suspensions to prior to that game and declaring it a forfeit. That loss disqualified the team from continuing, not an after-the-fact disqualification. Think of it as having used ineligible players, BECAUSE ....

6) Are you freakin kidding me that LLSB would "cancel" the ESPN spot for that scheduled championship game over this? Weather, maybe; but to cancel this game when you have an administrative solution (making the suspensions retroactive and forfeiting the semifinal) is really unthinkable.

In another forum, I posted this thought:

Accountability and consequences for their actions? A public and national act of unsporting and crude behavior on social media is punished. How dare they??

It's only unfair and unreasonable to the extent that this group of kids have probably never been accountable before in their lives. Blame the parents, and multiply the blame by the excuses and rationalizations pontificated by the parents and coaches.
Only one problem with this. The 6 girls in the picture didn't violate any rules. Only the individual who posted the picture on social media did.
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Old Wed Aug 09, 2017, 06:15am
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Only one problem with this. The 6 girls in the picture didn't violate any rules. Only the individual who posted the picture on social media did.
Giving the finger in uniform in a dugout is perfectly OK. Right.
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Giving the finger in uniform in a dugout is perfectly OK. Right.
To whom ?
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To whom ?
'Twas sarcasm.
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'Twas sarcasm.
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Old Wed Aug 09, 2017, 07:29am
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Giving the finger in uniform in a dugout is perfectly OK. Right.
Why not? Just what does it mean anyway and what authority gave you that information?

It is a perfect case of behavior control that does nothing but prove Ivan Pavlov's theory was correct.

A word is just a word, a gesture is just a gesture and has no more power than what you provide it. If you get offended by such a thing it is because YOU chose to be offended.

But still not the point. The violation was posting it in a social media environment and only one person did that, not six
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Why not? Just what does it mean anyway and what authority gave you that information?

It is a perfect case of behavior control that does nothing but prove Ivan Pavlov's theory was correct.

A word is just a word, a gesture is just a gesture and has no more power than what you provide it. If you get offended by such a thing it is because YOU chose to be offended.

But still not the point. The violation was posting it in a social media environment and only one person did that, not six
So if someone commits an act only the reporter is guilty?
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So if someone commits an act only the reporter is guilty?
If the reporter was the one breaking the rules, absolutely.
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time: July 2000

place: University of Indiana

event: AYBTour Boys' and Girls' National Basketball Championship Tournament.


I was there to officiate. The teams were housed in the dorms on campus. The boys' tournament was played first.

The boys' teams were in the process of moving out of the dorms and the girls' teams were in the process of moving in to the dorms with the girls' tournament to start the next day.

I do not remember where this particular girls' team was from, but the previous year this team had won the girls' national championship at the 8th grade age group and had made it back to the nationals and was the favorite to win the 9th grade national championship.

During the move out and move in process the entire girls' team flashed members of some of the boys' teams that were standing on the side walk in front of the dorm. The girls' team was disqualified from the tournament before even playing a game.

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time: July 2000

place: University of Indiana

event: AYBTour Boys' and Girls' National Basketball Championship Tournament.


I was there to officiate. The teams were housed in the dorms on campus. The boys' touornament was played first.

The boys' teams were in the process of moving out of the dorms and the girls' teams were in the process of moving in to the dorms with the girls' tournament to start the next day.

I do not remember where this particular girls' team was from, but the previous year this team had won the girls' national championship at the 8th grade age group and had made it back to the nationals and was the favorite to win the 9th grade national championship.

During the move out and move in process the entire girls' team flashed members of some of the boys' teams that were standing on the side walk in front of the dorm. The girls' team was disqualified from the tournament before even playing a game.

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That is hilarious and sad at the same time.
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