Leaving the lineup

[BlueDevilRef]

I say no. Especially in adult leagues. He could be in the beer line for all you really know. He has not left the game until his turn comes to bat or he is absent from defense without being subbed out.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

I say no. Especially in adult leagues. He could be in the beer line for all you really know. He has not left the game until his turn comes to bat or he is absent from defense without being subbed out.

The OP offered a "given" fact that the player was gone. But even if the player wasn't gone, a team cannot lose a player that takes them below the limit of players with which they started via ejection.

Then you have the issue where the permitted male/female ratio required is no longer available

Again this is based on the rules. What the local fools....er, rules do beyond that is up to and on them

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

The OP offered a "given" fact that the player was gone. But even if the player wasn't gone, a team cannot lose a player that takes them below the limit of players with which they started via ejection.

Then you have the issue where the permitted male/female ratio required is no longer available

Again this is based on the rules. What the local fools....er, rules do beyond that is up to and on them

You still haven't answered the question that was really posed.

AT WHAT POINT HAS HE OFFICIALLY LEFT, WHEN HE LEAVES THE TEAM AREA, OR WHEN HIS TURN TO BAT COMES UP OR THE TEAM GOES ON DEFENSE?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

You still haven't answered the question that was really posed.

AT WHAT POINT HAS HE OFFICIALLY LEFT, WHEN HE LEAVES THE TEAM AREA, OR WHEN HIS TURN TO BAT COMES UP OR THE TEAM GOES ON DEFENSE?

"After he has completed his batting and base running duties, he has to leave for work. He has left the dugout when another batter male batter comes up to the plate"

[robbie]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

You still haven't answered the question that was really posed.

AT WHAT POINT HAS HE OFFICIALLY LEFT, WHEN HE LEAVES THE TEAM AREA, OR WHEN HIS TURN TO BAT COMES UP OR THE TEAM GOES ON DEFENSE?

Unless i see a rule to the contrary, in my game he is still "here" until he is either required to bat or to take the field and cannot do so.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by robbie

Unless i see a rule to the contrary, in my game he is still "here" until he is either required to bat or to take the field and cannot do so.

Bad news for you Robbie, it isn't YOUR game. The game belongs to the players or when the team reports his departure.

He has left the game when he picks up his equipment and leaves the ball park. The player leaving is IRRELEVANT to the ruling in this thread.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Bad news for you Robbie, it isn't YOUR game. The game belongs to the players or when the team reports his departure.

He has left the game when he picks up his equipment and leaves the ball park. The player leaving is IRRELEVANT to the ruling in this thread.

The OP as posted had way too much going on and that makes you right about it being irrelevant.

But can we take a shot at the interesting meat of this question? Here's a new situation that addresses only the departure issue more squarely. Men's SP Team B is already playing shorthanded. Another player from Team B leaves the dugout in a) carrying his bag, in b) not carrying his bag. It's long way to the parking lot but he finally makes it there and throws his stuff in his car. He then drives out of the parking lot right past the field. At what point does the game end as a forfeit. And let's say it matters because it's the bottom of the last inning and team B has rallied to pull even and then potentially win at times appropriately intermixed with the leaving player's behavior to make the question interesting. Further, suppose the departing player does not come up to bat during the inning.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by youngump

The OP as posted had way too much going on and that makes you right about it being irrelevant.

But can we take a shot at the interesting meat of this question? Here's a new situation that addresses only the departure issue more squarely. Men's SP Team B is already playing shorthanded. Another player from Team B leaves the dugout in a) carrying his bag, in b) not carrying his bag. It's long way to the parking lot but he finally makes it there and throws his stuff in his car. He then drives out of the parking lot right past the field. At what point does the game end as a forfeit. And let's say it matters because it's the bottom of the last inning and team B has rallied to pull even and then potentially win at times appropriately intermixed with the leaving player's behavior to make the question interesting. Further, suppose the departing player does not come up to bat during the inning.

I note that in your scenario nothing has apparently been officially reported to the plate umpire. Correct?

[robbie]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Bad news for you Robbie, it isn't YOUR game. The game belongs to the players or when the team reports his departure.

He has left the game when he picks up his equipment and leaves the ball park. The player leaving is IRRELEVANT to the ruling in this thread.

Does a rule specifically say that?

Perhaps we was driving to 7/11 to get a slurpy and will be back for his AB or place in the field.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by robbie

Does a rule specifically say that?

Perhaps we was driving to 7/11 to get a slurpy and will be back for his AB or place in the field.

Read 4.1.A