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Old Tue Apr 11, 2017, 01:34pm
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These are questions I could not find in the rule book:

1 - R1 is on third base and R2 is on first base with one out. B4 hits a fly ball in foul territory near the first-base line. R2 interferes with F3 attempting to catch the fly ball. The correct call is:
This is very similar to Case Book play 8.6.10E. In your question, the ball is dead immediately, R2 is ruled out for interference under rule 8-6-10b, and the foul ball would add a strike to the batter's count (unless there were two strikes at the time).

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2 - If the DP enters the game to play defense for the FLEX, she is considered a substitute.
True, per the definition of Substitute in 2-57-1, where it says a Substitute includes "the DP when the DP plays defense for the FLEX". However, it is a bit counter-intuitive because the DP is already in the game, so how can she be a substitute? But the definition tells us she is.

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3 - A pitcher is required to pitch until the first batter facing her has completed her turn at bat or the side has been retired.
False, per Case Book play 3.3.2D, where the ruling is that the starting pitcher in the lineup card handed to the plate umpire does not have to pitch before being replaced.
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Old Tue Apr 11, 2017, 03:54pm
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This is very similar to Case Book play 8.6.10E. In your question, the ball is dead immediately, R2 is ruled out for interference under rule 8-6-10b, and the foul ball would add a strike to the batter's count (unless there were two strikes at the time).



True, per the definition of Substitute in 2-57-1, where it says a Substitute includes "the DP when the DP plays defense for the FLEX". However, it is a bit counter-intuitive because the DP is already in the game, so how can she be a substitute? But the definition tells us she is.



False, per Case Book play 3.3.2D, where the ruling is that the starting pitcher in the lineup card handed to the plate umpire does not have to pitch before being replaced.
Cool. Looked at every mention of DP & FLEX, but did not think of the substitute definition.

I guess the others mean I'm not good or not patient enough reading cases.
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Old Tue Apr 11, 2017, 10:54pm
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Cool. Looked at every mention of DP & FLEX, but did not think of the substitute definition.

I guess the others mean I'm not good or not patient enough reading cases.
Well, the wording sucks; it isn't really a substitution for the DP. But it absolutely IS a substitution for the FLEX; didn't that person leave the game, being replaced by the DP in that defensive role?
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Old Wed Apr 12, 2017, 08:54am
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Well, the wording sucks; it isn't really a substitution for the DP. But it absolutely IS a substitution for the FLEX; didn't that person leave the game, being replaced by the DP in that defensive role?
Of course, that part was not the question. The "semantics" problem is calling someone a substitute who is already in the game.
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Old Wed Apr 12, 2017, 09:18am
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Well, the wording sucks; it isn't really a substitution for the DP. But it absolutely IS a substitution for the FLEX; didn't that person leave the game, being replaced by the DP in that defensive role?
Agree. I guess NFHS feels that when the DP replaces the FLEX on defense, the DP is considered a substitute because she is replacing a starter who is now on the bench.

Problem is that when the FLEX re-enters to play defense and the DP goes back to offense only, the DP has not left the game. So when she replaces the FLEX on defense again, she becomes a substitute again, but she isn't exercising her one re-entry as a substitute because she's not really re-entering. It does create confusion.
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