Live or dead?

[Billyball]

Batter hits ball to the shortstop who bobbles it a couple of times. Runner hits first well before the throw and makes a hard right into foul territory and stops. Throw then hits the runner well after the safe call and who is standing 5-6 feet in foul territory.

[RKBUmp]

Why would it be anything other than a live ball? Runner did nothing but get hit by a bad throw by the defense.

[BlueDevilRef]

Something here isn't adding up. where is the problem/question?

[Billyball]

My partner called it dead tonight.

[josephrt1]

Hopefully he at least did not call the runner out! Did he think the batter-runner was injured and needed attention?

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by Billyball

My partner called it dead tonight.

This still makes no sense. For what reason?

[Billyball]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

This still makes no sense. For what reason?

I did not say anything until between innings. I said "I think that ball was still live" He said "After the runner made a hard right after hitting first and turned into foul territory the play was over..then the ball hit him in the leg and he called dead right away. The runner did not attempt to advance but looked like he might of had it not been called dead.

[CecilOne]

OK, so he blew it, hopefully not the next time.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Billyball

I did not say anything until between innings. I said "I think that ball was still live" He said "After the runner made a hard right after hitting first and turned into foul territory the play was over..then the ball hit him in the leg and he called dead right away. The runner did not attempt to advance but looked like he might of had it not been called dead.

How is the play over?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Billyball

My partner called it dead tonight.

This the same partner that killed a live ball in the other thread?

Someone needs remedial training. In softball, you almost never have to declare the ball dead, as long as it remains in the field of play.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

This the same partner that killed a live ball in the other thread?

Someone needs remedial training. In softball, you almost never have to declare the ball dead, as long as it remains in the field of play.

I believe this is a slow pitch game, which does utilize the dead ball/time more frequently than fast pitch.

The phrase "all action has ceased" is the key for slow pitch.

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

I believe this is a slow pitch game, which does utilize the dead ball/time more frequently than fast pitch.



The phrase "all action has ceased" is the key for slow pitch.

2 man in slow pitch? Never seen it. I always called myself and played with one ump too.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

2 man in slow pitch? Never seen it. I always called myself and played with one ump too.

It exists. All of our ASA state slowpitch is two umpires. We have a league in town that insists on two umpires.

[BlueDevilRef]

What is odd about it is I live in/suburb of Springfield, Mo where ASA HOF is and we still don't have two umps in SP

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

I believe this is a slow pitch game, which does utilize the dead ball/time more frequently than fast pitch.

The phrase "all action has ceased" is the key for slow pitch.

Even if this was slow pitch (despite the 2 umpires), this ball is on the ground, in no one's possession. NO CHANCE do you call dead ball at this point, even in slow pitch.