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Billyball Fri May 27, 2016 08:53pm

Live or dead?
 
Batter hits ball to the shortstop who bobbles it a couple of times. Runner hits first well before the throw and makes a hard right into foul territory and stops. Throw then hits the runner well after the safe call and who is standing 5-6 feet in foul territory.

RKBUmp Fri May 27, 2016 08:59pm

Why would it be anything other than a live ball? Runner did nothing but get hit by a bad throw by the defense.

BlueDevilRef Fri May 27, 2016 09:14pm

Something here isn't adding up. where is the problem/question?

Billyball Fri May 27, 2016 09:56pm

My partner called it dead tonight.

josephrt1 Sat May 28, 2016 12:35am

Hopefully he at least did not call the runner out! Did he think the batter-runner was injured and needed attention?

BlueDevilRef Sat May 28, 2016 07:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billyball (Post 988065)
My partner called it dead tonight.



This still makes no sense. For what reason?

Billyball Sat May 28, 2016 08:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef (Post 988069)
This still makes no sense. For what reason?

I did not say anything until between innings. I said "I think that ball was still live" He said "After the runner made a hard right after hitting first and turned into foul territory the play was over..then the ball hit him in the leg and he called dead right away. The runner did not attempt to advance but looked like he might of had it not been called dead.

CecilOne Sat May 28, 2016 09:06am

OK, so he blew it, hopefully not the next time.

IRISHMAFIA Sat May 28, 2016 08:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billyball (Post 988070)
I did not say anything until between innings. I said "I think that ball was still live" He said "After the runner made a hard right after hitting first and turned into foul territory the play was over..then the ball hit him in the leg and he called dead right away. The runner did not attempt to advance but looked like he might of had it not been called dead.

How is the play over?

MD Longhorn Wed Jun 01, 2016 09:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billyball (Post 988065)
My partner called it dead tonight.

This the same partner that killed a live ball in the other thread?

Someone needs remedial training. In softball, you almost never have to declare the ball dead, as long as it remains in the field of play.

Big Slick Wed Jun 01, 2016 09:59am

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 988158)
This the same partner that killed a live ball in the other thread?

Someone needs remedial training. In softball, you almost never have to declare the ball dead, as long as it remains in the field of play.

I believe this is a slow pitch game, which does utilize the dead ball/time more frequently than fast pitch.

The phrase "all action has ceased" is the key for slow pitch.

BlueDevilRef Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:04am

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Originally Posted by Big Slick (Post 988160)
I believe this is a slow pitch game, which does utilize the dead ball/time more frequently than fast pitch.



The phrase "all action has ceased" is the key for slow pitch.



2 man in slow pitch? Never seen it. I always called myself and played with one ump too.

Big Slick Thu Jun 02, 2016 07:23am

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Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef (Post 988165)
2 man in slow pitch? Never seen it. I always called myself and played with one ump too.

It exists. All of our ASA state slowpitch is two umpires. We have a league in town that insists on two umpires.

BlueDevilRef Thu Jun 02, 2016 07:47am

What is odd about it is I live in/suburb of Springfield, Mo where ASA HOF is and we still don't have two umps in SP

MD Longhorn Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Slick (Post 988160)
I believe this is a slow pitch game, which does utilize the dead ball/time more frequently than fast pitch.

The phrase "all action has ceased" is the key for slow pitch.

Even if this was slow pitch (despite the 2 umpires), this ball is on the ground, in no one's possession. NO CHANCE do you call dead ball at this point, even in slow pitch.


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